Among dialect scholars in Finland some want to name the dialect of #Kronoby as the most archaic. As a researcher specialised in #vocalism I willingly subscribe to that: unlike #Närpes (and unlike #Icelandic) no secondary diphthongisation and better preserved #OldNorse syllable quantity. Unlike some #FennoSwedish dialects a distinction is maintained between öi (vf. #WestNorse ey) and öu (cf. West Norse au) https://kronomagasinet.wordpress.com/om-krombi/
#kronoby #vocalism #narpes #icelandic #OldNorse #fennoswedish #westnorse
There was more elaborate discussion, behind the link below, on the subject of þ- turning into t- in ”small (commonly unstressed) #FennoSwedish lexemes (rather than d- as in mainstream #Scandinavian).
This development is known from some other periferal dialect areas as well, and from the #Faroese language:
https://mastodon.world/@simonwilliamson/109416718445355270
#fennoswedish #scandinavian #faroese
There was more elaborate discussion, behind the link below, on the subject of þ- turning into t- in ”small (commonly unstressed) #FennoSwedish lexemes (rather than d- as in mainstream Scandinavian).
This development is known from some other periferal dialect areas as well, and from the Faroese language:
https://mastodon.world/@simonwilliamson/109416718445355270
Before taking on harder subjects, let’s debunk a myth circulating in Finland and Sweden: No! The dialect in #Närpes or #Närpesiska is not the ”oldest” #FennoSwedish dialect! And moreover, it has remarkably little in common with “Swedish spoken in Stockholm in the 1500s” (see link). The myth is fuelled by the impression that “incomprehensible”=“archaic”. In fact Närpesiska is incomprehensible mainly for the opposite reason: it is full of phonological innovations. https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-1281219
#narpes #narpesiska #fennoswedish
Before taking on harder subjects, let’s debunk a myth circulating in Finland and Sweden: No! The dialect in #Närpes or #Närpesiska is not the ”oldest” #FennoSwedish dialect! And moreover, it has remarkably little in common with “Swedish spoken in Stockholm in the 1500s” (see link). The myth is fuelled by the impression that “incomprehensible”=“archaic”. In fact Närpesiska is incomprehensible mainly for the opposite reason: it is full of phonological innovations. svenska.yle.fi/a/7-1281219
#narpes #narpesiska #fennoswedish
Before taking on harder subjects, let’s debunk a myth circulating in Finland and Sweden: No! The dialect in #Närpes or #Närpesiska is not the ”oldest” #FennoSwedish dialect! And moreover, it has remarkably little in common with “Swedish spoken in Stockholm in the 1500s” (see link). The myth is fuelled by the impression that “incomprehensible”=“archaic”. In fact Närpesiska is incomprehensible mainly for the opposite reason: it is full of phonological innovations. https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-1281219
#narpes #narpesiska #fennoswedish
There was an earlier thread where this /t/ pro /d/ difference in #FennoSwedish dialects (from #OldNorse þ) was more thoroughly discussed and compared to a similar outcome in #Faroese https://mastodon.world/@simonwilliamson/109416718445355270
#fennoswedish #OldNorse #faroese
My first posting is on #FennoSwedish. In parallel in this chain you find two spontaneous samples from #Pargas between Turku and the Åland Islands.
Old traits common in Finland:
-Neuter & non-referential pronoun ”he” ’it’, also compounded ”hehe” ’it-that’ & ”hete” ’it-there’ -Small words with initial d- in Swedish begin with t- in dialect: ”teh” =”där” ’there’; ”To” =”Du” ’you’; ’tåte” =”dylik-där” ’such there’.
-Short stressed CV-syllables ”sama” ’same’.
-Retained diphthong ”göutar” ’boys’
My first posting is on #FennoSwedish. In parallel in this chain you find two spontaneous samples from #Pargas between Turku and the Åland Islands.
Old traits common in Finland:
-Neuter & non-referential pronoun ”he” ’it’, also compounded ”hehe” ’it-that’ & ”hete” ’it-there’ -Small words with initial d- in Swedish begin with t- in dialect: ”teh” =”där” ’there’; ”To” =”Du” ’you’; ’tåte” =”dylik-där” ’such there’.
-Short stressed CV-syllables ”sama” ’same’.
-Retained diphthong ”göutar”
My first posting is on #FennoSwedish. In parallel in this chain you find a spontaneous sample from #Pargas between Turku and the Åland Islands.
Old traits common in Finland:
-Neuter & non-referential pronoun ”he” ’it’, also compounded ”hehe” ’it-that’ & ”hete” ’it-there’ -Small words with initial d- in Swedish begin with t- in dialect: ”teh” =”där” ’there’; ”To” =”Du” ’you’; ’tåte” =”dylik-där” ’such there’.
-Short stressed CV-syllables ”sama” ’same’.
@onlmaps In #FennoSwedish we have the words ”nock” and ”lock” for ’spider’ https://kaino.kotus.fi/fo/?p=article&fo_id=FO_98bfdfa938d935955efbbcda8f16484f&word=nock