Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
177 followers · 182 posts · Server lingo.lol

Among dialect scholars in Finland some want to name the dialect of as the most archaic. As a researcher specialised in I willingly subscribe to that: unlike (and unlike ) no secondary diphthongisation and better preserved syllable quantity. Unlike some dialects a distinction is maintained between öi (vf. ey) and öu (cf. West Norse au) kronomagasinet.wordpress.com/o

#kronoby #vocalism #narpes #icelandic #OldNorse #fennoswedish #westnorse

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Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
172 followers · 181 posts · Server lingo.lol

There was more elaborate discussion, behind the link below, on the subject of þ- turning into t- in ”small (commonly unstressed) lexemes (rather than d- as in mainstream ).

This development is known from some other periferal dialect areas as well, and from the language:
mastodon.world/@simonwilliamso

#fennoswedish #scandinavian #faroese

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Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
172 followers · 181 posts · Server lingo.lol

There was more elaborate discussion, behind the link below, on the subject of þ- turning into t- in ”small (commonly unstressed) lexemes (rather than d- as in mainstream Scandinavian).

This development is known from some other periferal dialect areas as well, and from the Faroese language:
mastodon.world/@simonwilliamso

#fennoswedish

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Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
171 followers · 176 posts · Server lingo.lol

Before taking on harder subjects, let’s debunk a myth circulating in Finland and Sweden: No! The dialect in or is not the ”oldest” dialect! And moreover, it has remarkably little in common with “Swedish spoken in Stockholm in the 1500s” (see link). The myth is fuelled by the impression that “incomprehensible”=“archaic”. In fact Närpesiska is incomprehensible mainly for the opposite reason: it is full of phonological innovations. svenska.yle.fi/a/7-1281219

#narpes #narpesiska #fennoswedish

Last updated 2 years ago

Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
171 followers · 176 posts · Server lingo.lol

Before taking on harder subjects, let’s debunk a myth circulating in Finland and Sweden: No! The dialect in or is not the ”oldest” dialect! And moreover, it has remarkably little in common with “Swedish spoken in Stockholm in the 1500s” (see link). The myth is fuelled by the impression that “incomprehensible”=“archaic”. In fact Närpesiska is incomprehensible mainly for the opposite reason: it is full of phonological innovations. svenska.yle.fi/a/7-1281219

#narpes #narpesiska #fennoswedish

Last updated 2 years ago

Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
171 followers · 177 posts · Server lingo.lol

Before taking on harder subjects, let’s debunk a myth circulating in Finland and Sweden: No! The dialect in or is not the ”oldest” dialect! And moreover, it has remarkably little in common with “Swedish spoken in Stockholm in the 1500s” (see link). The myth is fuelled by the impression that “incomprehensible”=“archaic”. In fact Närpesiska is incomprehensible mainly for the opposite reason: it is full of phonological innovations. svenska.yle.fi/a/7-1281219

#narpes #narpesiska #fennoswedish

Last updated 2 years ago

Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
171 followers · 172 posts · Server lingo.lol

There was an earlier thread where this /t/ pro /d/ difference in dialects (from þ) was more thoroughly discussed and compared to a similar outcome in mastodon.world/@simonwilliamso

#fennoswedish #OldNorse #faroese

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Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
170 followers · 169 posts · Server lingo.lol

My first posting is on . In parallel in this chain you find two spontaneous samples from between Turku and the Åland Islands.
Old traits common in Finland:
-Neuter & non-referential pronoun ”he” ’it’, also compounded ”hehe” ’it-that’ & ”hete” ’it-there’ -Small words with initial d- in Swedish begin with t- in dialect: ”teh” =”där” ’there’; ”To” =”Du” ’you’; ’tåte” =”dylik-där” ’such there’.
-Short stressed CV-syllables ”sama” ’same’.
-Retained diphthong ”göutar” ’boys’

#fennoswedish #pargas

Last updated 2 years ago

Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
170 followers · 169 posts · Server lingo.lol

My first posting is on . In parallel in this chain you find two spontaneous samples from between Turku and the Åland Islands.
Old traits common in Finland:
-Neuter & non-referential pronoun ”he” ’it’, also compounded ”hehe” ’it-that’ & ”hete” ’it-there’ -Small words with initial d- in Swedish begin with t- in dialect: ”teh” =”där” ’there’; ”To” =”Du” ’you’; ’tåte” =”dylik-där” ’such there’.
-Short stressed CV-syllables ”sama” ’same’.
-Retained diphthong ”göutar”

#fennoswedish #pargas

Last updated 2 years ago

Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
170 followers · 169 posts · Server lingo.lol

My first posting is on . In parallel in this chain you find a spontaneous sample from between Turku and the Åland Islands.
Old traits common in Finland:
-Neuter & non-referential pronoun ”he” ’it’, also compounded ”hehe” ’it-that’ & ”hete” ’it-there’ -Small words with initial d- in Swedish begin with t- in dialect: ”teh” =”där” ’there’; ”To” =”Du” ’you’; ’tåte” =”dylik-där” ’such there’.
-Short stressed CV-syllables ”sama” ’same’.

#fennoswedish #pargas

Last updated 2 years ago

Johan Schalin, PhD · @iohannan
171 followers · 167 posts · Server lingo.lol

#fennoswedish

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