Interview #70 - #weareinnocent with Rosa and Ellis Langsdale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu3bSTMoB50&t=7s

The way we operate obviously is not a sustainable one, it’s often better to work safer so you can work for longer.

My choice was based on the judgement that my health meant I wouldn’t have long anyway. I was more right than I thought because it was suicide I thought would be the thing to cut my time to make a difference short because living was so hard with my unless as it was but, obviously, things got worse. My hands stopped working less than a year in to operating this way with Ellis.
Yes, it was a choice I made for myself and Ellis chose to join me. He would have still been on watch lists but he would never have been facing this if I wasn’t so desperate to do the most I could with what little I have, just to fucking justify surviving in a body like this.
Im so ill now I can’t do anything but the truth is I could still have an impact just by existing but literally only if our existence is raised up as resistance to state repression.

I can still speak and speak well but writing is a struggle. It had been ages since being prompted became vital, since I couldn’t just write everything I wanted in anticipation of input of there’s.
Idk I DONT KNOW. I just don’t fucking know how anyone can have heard me or watched some of this
https://youtu.be/OIeGZLRi_DE and not understand what I am saying.

You should speak up for reasons of both basic moral duty and this situations political opportunity. At least talk to us if you don’t understand what we mean because I know I can clear it up with anyone in an actual conversation.

#WeAreInnocent #RevolutionNow

RT @weareint0lerant@twitter.com

Attention.

http://Weareintolerant.online
We always wanted and now, inevitably, need attention.
We just couldn’t have known the form in which the British State would retaliate. It makes so much sense that they made us say #WeAreInnocent about what Ellis has been accused of… https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant/status/1619098118313881601

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant/status/1619123709280931840

RT @weareint0lerant@twitter.com

Well done y’all helped the State take out the only non anon advocates for a #GeneralStrike in the U.K.

You’ve done a great service to the British state, would you like an OBE?

Fucking hell. We are going live as midnight U.K. time tonight. Be there.

#WeAreInnocent

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant/status/1616509967518863386

RT @weareint0lerant@twitter.com

CLIP THREAD🎞️🧵
From 1st interview with @SkepticalLefty@twitter.com
https://youtu.be/s10TRsHAhBo?list=PLhyUB2b0B-QwEllWrfNfFpF2RgTP0WFS-
We don't talk about the #WeAreInnocent stuff in this one. The police only called claiming to have evidence after. About a week after this interview. http://weareintolerant.online

Ellis & Riots
1/?!

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant/status/1605615776706154496

RT @weareint0lerant@twitter.com

@airidescence@twitter.com @OLAASM@twitter.com Is there a case they are holding over you? We have a situation like that… http://weareintolerant.online. Please help us. It’s literally easier for the cops to kill us now than it is for them to press forward with this frame job of my husband carer and comrade. #WeAreInnocent

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant/status/1616002375000408066

Even better than an RT or any interaction is sharing the website link http://weareintolerant.online My tweets are of little use i explaining it now because It's all been said before and it's there so please share that link. x
#WeAreInnocent

RT @weareint0lerant@twitter.com

Kor what you've missed see our recent posts on kolektiva http://kolektiva.social/@weareintolerant and our blog posts on http://weareintolerant.online (#WeAreInnocent posts in a summary on landing page blow the timeline which is now out of date)

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant/status/1612934357995651072

We had a great chat and seemed to get on but I say he seems to like me because the first thing he said to Ellis was "I've just had a long chat with your wife. Wow, she is a WOMAN!"
Despite the way I look - being so cute and all - NO ONE thinks of me as a girl (I make damn sure of that) and it is the *woman* I am that Ellis loves so much.

He is not a fucking pedophile. Everyone we speak to IRL whether they know him or not believes us. I have spoken to total strangers about this and they believe us. I'm more sure than ever that that's really not the problem.

If it's security please see this https://weareintolerant.online/safe-opsec and comment as suggested, we will respond to your points in a general way in a video that addresses everybody rather than respond to you directly if that helps.

Though I will say I really don't think that's the kind of thing that would get you in any trouble even if you did so in DM.

The trouble you may face is within your control in how you word your statements: Safest is to approach it like a lib with at least some integrity "No matter what you think of the things they say what the State is doing to them is wrong etc." - sticking to a condemnation of the State and defense of our innocence.

If you do agree with the things we say there are ways of showing solidarity on top of those things that can insulate you to various degrees and we are happy to help with those comms if that's a thing stopping people who would otherwise be allies.
Please go to https://weareintolerant.online for everything until a few days ago which is briefly explained here https://weareintolerant.online/malcomms-rough

#WeAreInnocent

https://youtu.be/NaY8_k9qF3E
#GeneralStrike #WeAreInnocent https://weareintolerant.online

Why we were targeted.
Learn more: https://weareintolerant.online.
Spread the word OBVIOUSLY.
We've been silenced on Twitter after this last interaction with local cops - the little cogs in this op. (We were suspended after last time but the gag on that platform it is total after this last shit thats briefly described pending a proper update to the timeline by Ellis. - backup account was busted and shut down)
#WeAreInnocent

We are 100% up for answering questions as we have been all the way through (so please just bloody ask if you are unsure and cant yet condemn the state for this.)

We will do as we have also done all the way of anticipating all questions in our explanation of events but that will take a while because right now we are so incredibly tired; triggered and flared up (we both have chronic pain & PTSD that have been exacerbated throughout and in these last days pushed extra hard).

This was the first time Ellis has been in a cell for some time and it's taken a toll as that always used to lead to actual prison and he has a lot of trauma from there too obviously. As he's the one who has to write up longer form stuff (he wrote the timeline on the website) that's just gonna have to happen in his own time. He's also in a lot of pain which is my main issue right now, which I suppose is relatively a reprieve as most of this op has relied on triggering my PTSD and that's fucked my pain up anyway.

Pigs have put me in the worst pain in years because it's the first time in god knows how long I've been forced to walk w/o walking sticks outside a small home where there are places to sit super close and regular. I never did that to myself for this reason! I can still walk A BIT without them but then I'm like THIS FOR FUCKING AGES.
Yes, we are the closest thing to the Angry Brigade since they were in action. Whether it's out of caution or genuine disapproval the answer is no, you don't have to endorse us but you must condemn the State.
It's a moral failure even for your basic lib not to do what every one of you can do to help us now.
Spread the word, we already needed this, and not we can't even speak for ourselves on Twitter. (we ARE suspended from twitter - see new blog post on the website)
This is serious, yes, are you not?
We really thought more "comrades" were, Spread the word, help us reach those who are.
Spread the word, it is literally the very least you can do.
https://weareintolerant.online
#WeAreInnocent

A rough update after the arrest our arrest for Malicious Communications (threats to cause criminal damage and threats to kill) https://weareintolerant.online/blog/malcoms-rough

Who'd issue a direct threat to firebomb shit and stab their landlord that would get them arrested and unable to carry such a threat out FFS!?

So yeah, in terms of literal threats, #WeAreInnocent of that also.
Seriously go to the fucking website (landing page) for everything up until this recent arrest too https://weareintolerant.online

@DisRuptMedia161 Thank for following us. We are new to kolektiva and all the phone lines on twitter ave now been cut. Please see https://weareintolerant.online landing page and spread the word, it never stopped being urgent that people do so but now we are only able to send out our SOS to about 400 followers so please this needs action ASAP and that action needs to be sustained.
Ellis is the best man I have ever known. I, and everyone else that knows him, have no doubt that he is innocent. In fact, only cops claim to have any doubt at all.
#WeAreInnocent This is not a drill.

No one has an excuse not to help us https://weareintolerant.online

Feel free to try and justify silence but be aware that I will question your reasoning and responding with reiteration without explanation does not fucking count.

Guilty people may settle for the solidarity we are already getting, we are not without support and love those true comrades but #WeAreInnocent so no fucking way are we okay with anyone opting out.

My husband is not a fucking pedophile.

Guilty people may be satisfied that there is no charge for that but #WeAreInnocent and will not rest because the pigs still once claimed that they found filth. (if so why no charge still eh?)

Technically, it's also true that #WeAreInnocent of literal threats to firebomb the council office and police station for which Ellis has been released under investigation, and for "threats to kill" our landlord which pigs told Ellis they may still decide to pursue - I doubt it, they only hauled us in over the other thing cos their hand was forced - all the way they have avoided charges for anything else (I got a caution for spitting in a cops face!) cos they don't want us anywhere near a court telling our story until they are ready with their fake evidence to frame Ellis.

Confirmed again many times in this last interaction including this:
What Ellis said they arrested us over -
"I feel like blowing up the police station and council building" & "Do you want me to wait 2 days till I have to stab our landlord to stop him from tearing our caravan off its standing?"
What I said *to a cop's face* that no cop claimed was a crime -
"I FEEL like killing you and all your pig colleagues."

Also, I was holding a joint when they arrested me and they asked me to drop my "cigarette" twice. lol (funny to those who know how often cops will demand to know if any old rolly is a joint.) They also will have seen knuckle dusters when they went in the caravan. Why do we keep getting away with some shit while being framed for something else? that's why!! There's a long game at play that would be compromised by any other contact we have with the institutions and processes required to frame Ellis when they eventually fake that fucking evidence (they've had ages now!)

At least these new allegations are somewhat based in reality.

Anyway YOU need to step up.
Yes, I am almost certainly talking about you. Most visitors to the website say nothing. They they don't believe us they should say so ffs.
Silence isn't neutral and you all fucking know this. Wake up and realize this is a big moment that both demands you rise to a challenge and offers opportunities to seize.

@bellamy Thank you for boosting us, it's what we need desperately: eyes and allies, as in any advocacy. #WeAreInnocent see https://weareintolerant.online for what was, till a few days ago, a full timeline of events (and more).

Hey don't know how the note thing works so not sure ow to tell if it send SO... @makhnob1tch Thank you for following us, what we need desperately is eyes and allies, as in any advocacy. #WeAreInnocent see https://weareintolerant.online for what was, till a few days ago, a full timeline of events (and more).

@amoshuxley NEW EVENTS IN THE EMERGENCY please see the new #WeAreInnocent blogpost on weareintolerant.online https://weareintolerant.online/blog/update-only-here More has happened and now damn near all the phone lines have been cut. This is all that's left. We had 5K followers on the primary Twitter account and while we may still get that back in a few days the back up being taken down at this time after this new interaction with fucking pigs is a massive deal and means we need more help than ever. Though the support we have is truly appreciated we already needed far far more help than before this last stay in their custody (both of us this time) The blog post links to Twitter treads which for some reason you can see as the accounts don't show as being suspended - see the screenshots in the blog posts, both accounts ARE temp banned - I've longs described the level of shadow ban we face on both as a stealth suspension because it's so stark but this bloody is some!
I can post more screenshots of what happens at whatever moment when I try to do anything on either - even DM mutuals which it says we should be able to do! I can take those if they are requested by anyone who will actually admit to cynicism but right now I can't even describe how tired and flared up I am let alone expand on why - what happened- further than the pinned thread(S) on https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant explains. PLEASE TELL TWITTER WHY WE ARE SILENT - WE HAVE BEEN SILENCED THERE.
Thank you for your solidarity through this, we still needed it desperately anyway to get others to do the right thing but now it's more important as we can't even tell the world what is happening and what's just happened now killing our ability to advocate for ourselves means this is wholly in the hands of comrades for a while.
Kow that I am less suicidal after all that than I have been for months through the psychological torture of this that really brought me back to this place once the silence of those without the integrity of comrades of you was confronted when we went public and still today. I'm saying this in this new version of this copy-and-pasted mini and new SOS about our pre-existing SOS (fucksake this shit is hard to explain especially when you're SO TIRED!) point is if they kill us it wasn't us. We never used to think this was likely until I realised and put on the record in a recent Twitter thread, given how they fucked up so badly so many times in all this, turning this into the world most painfully obvious op and the way that the continued silence from most comrades to come across our SOS on social media linking to https://weareintolerant.online despite how obvious it is that #WeAreInnocent has fucked me up making me extremely suicidal for the last weeks (survived an overdose about a month ago) it really might be easier now to send someone to literally kill us rather than persist with a fit up that requires the risk that does exist within running this op all the way to the point of a fit up - as would have been avoided had the whole murder-suicide plan worked or had I not come through the overdose from the recent attempt - I'm on record - public domain and medical records - as suicial just recently and a full fit up is harder than it would have been now because of those fuck ups so yeah I (Rosa) really do think it's possible that they might kill us and make it look like suicide
Also, briefly, (because did I mention I'm tired? I'll explain why my hands are extra sore ASAP) Where we live we are the only caravan on this side of the park, out of sight of any of the other statics and like most caravans here - has no functional locks.
ALSO - See twitter (TIRED!) >.< there's a thread about a car with squarehead lights and occupants that lied. (use advanced search on main Twitter "car with square headlights")
So much love and omg help us again please x

@Cyrilwheat NEW EVENTS IN THE EMERGENCY please see the new #WeAreInnocent blogpost on weareintolerant.online https://weareintolerant.online/blog/update-only-here More has happened and now damn near all the phone lines have been cut. This is all that's left. We had 5K followers on the primary Twitter account and while we may still get that back in a few days the back up being taken down at this time after this new interaction with fucking pigs is a massive deal and means we need more help than ever. Though the support we have is truly appreciated we already needed far far more help than before this last stay in their custody (both of us this time) The blog post links to Twitter treads which for some reason you can see as the accounts don't show as being suspended - see the screenshots in the blog posts, both accounts ARE temp banned - I've longs described the level of shadow ban we face on both as a stealth suspension because it's so stark but this bloody is some!
I can post more screenshots of what happens at whatever moment when I try to do anything on either - even DM mutuals which it says we should be able to do! I can take those if they are requested by anyone who will actually admit to cynicism but right now I can't even describe how tired and flared up I am let alone expand on why - what happened- further than the pinned thread(S) on https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant explains. PLEASE TELL TWITTER WHY WE ARE SILENT - WE HAVE BEEN SILENCED THERE.
Thank you for your solidarity through this, we still needed it desperately anyway to get others to do the right thing but now it's more important as we can't even tell the world what is happening and what's just happened now killing our ability to advocate for ourselves means this is wholly in the hands of comrades for a while.
Kow that I am less suicidal after all that than I have been for months through the psychological torture of this that really brought me back to this place once the silence of those without the integrity of comrades of you was confronted when we went public and still today. I'm saying this in this new version of this copy-and-pasted mini and new SOS about our pre-existing SOS (fucksake this shit is hard to explain especially when you're SO TIRED!) point is if they kill us it wasn't us. We never used to think this was likely until I realised and put on the record in a recent Twitter thread, given how they fucked up so badly so many times in all this, turning this into the world most painfully obvious op and the way that the continued silence from most comrades to come across our SOS on social media linking to https://weareintolerant.online despite how obvious it is that #WeAreInnocent has fucked me up making me extremely suicidal for the last weeks (survived an overdose about a month ago) it really might be easier now to send someone to literally kill us rather than persist with a fit up that requires the risk that does exist within running this op all the way to the point of a fit up - as would have been avoided had the whole murder-suicide plan worked or had I not come through the overdose from the recent attempt - I'm on record - public domain and medical records - as suicial just recently and a full fit up is harder than it would have been now because of those fuck ups so yeah I (Rosa) really do think it's possible that they might kill us and make it look like suicide
Also, briefly, (because did I mention I'm tired? I'll explain why my hands are extra sore ASAP) Where we live we are the only caravan on this side of the park, out of sight of any of the other statics and like most caravans here - has no functional locks.
ALSO - See twitter (TIRED!) >.< there's a thread about a car with squarehead lights and occupants that lied. (use advanced search on main Twitter "car with square headlights")
So much love and omg help us again please x

@FascistFighter8 NEW EVENTS IN THE EMERGENCY please see the new #WeAreInnocent blogpost on weareintolerant.online https://weareintolerant.online/blog/update-only-here More has happened and now damn near all the phone lines have been cut. This is all that's left. We had 5K followers on the primary Twitter account and while we may still get that back in a few days the back up being taken down at this time after this new interaction with fucking pigs is a massive deal and means we need more help than ever. Though the support we have is truly appreciated we already needed far far more help than before this last stay in their custody (both of us this time) The blog post links to Twitter treads which for some reason you can see as the accounts don't show as being suspended - see the screenshots in the blog posts, both accounts ARE temp banned - I've longs described the level of shadow ban we face on both as a stealth suspension because it's so stark but this bloody is some!
I can post more screenshots of what happens at whatever moment when I try to do anything on either - even DM mutuals which it says we should be able to do! I can take those if they are requested by anyone who will actually admit to cynicism but right now I can't even describe how tired and flared up I am let alone expand on why - what happened- further than the pinned thread(S) on https://twitter.com/weareint0lerant explains. PLEASE TELL TWITTER WHY WE ARE SILENT - WE HAVE BEEN SILENCED THERE.
Thank you for your solidarity through this, we still needed it desperately anyway to get others to do the right thing but now it's more important as we can't even tell the world what is happening and what's just happened now killing our ability to advocate for ourselves means this is wholly in the hands of comrades for a while.
Kow that I am less suicidal after all that than I have been for months through the psychological torture of this that really brought me back to this place once the silence of those without the integrity of comrades of you was confronted when we went public and still today. I'm saying this in this new version of this copy-and-pasted mini and new SOS about our pre-existing SOS (fucksake this shit is hard to explain especially when you're SO TIRED!) point is if they kill us it wasn't us. We never used to think this was likely until I realised and put on the record in a recent Twitter thread, given how they fucked up so badly so many times in all this, turning this into the world most painfully obvious op and the way that the continued silence from most comrades to come across our SOS on social media linking to https://weareintolerant.online despite how obvious it is that #WeAreInnocent has fucked me up making me extremely suicidal for the last weeks (survived an overdose about a month ago) it really might be easier now to send someone to literally kill us rather than persist with a fit up that requires the risk that does exist within running this op all the way to the point of a fit up - as would have been avoided had the whole murder-suicide plan worked or had I not come through the overdose from the recent attempt - I'm on record - public domain and medical records - as suicial just recently and a full fit up is harder than it would have been now because of those fuck ups so yeah I (Rosa) really do think it's possible that they might kill us and make it look like suicide
Also, briefly, (because did I mention I'm tired? I'll explain why my hands are extra sore ASAP) Where we live we are the only caravan on this side of the park, out of sight of any of the other statics and like most caravans here - has no functional locks.
ALSO - See twitter (TIRED!) >.< there's a thread about a car with squarehead lights and occupants that lied. (use advanced search on main Twitter "car with square headlights")
So much love and omg help us again please x