Doom an' gloom and why we have a #LastGen protest movement, given the emergency we're in, is decidedly civil ....

Arctic System Collapse? Devastating new research. | by Just have a Think
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#existentialThreats #eraOfExtinvtion #climateCrisis #göobalWorming

Thinking about existential risks and optimism/pessimism...

(If you don't like contemplating The End of Everything ... turn away now.)

I was revisiting an old post of mine on how Steve Pinker's Panglossianism annoys me:

https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/d0b93200d8e40138d780002590d8e506

Past Me wrote something Present Me is nodding vigorously to:

"A global catastrophic risk by definition has not yet occurred and therefore of necessity exists in a latent state. Worse, it shares non-existence with an infinite universe of calamities, many or most of which can not or never will occur, and any accurate Cassandra has the burden of arguing why the risk she warns of is not among the unrealisable set."

That is, a moronically tedious response to raising questions of existential or major threats (e.g., collapse of civilisation) is that they've been often predicted but haven't occurred yet. (At least for Civillisation Present Main Branch.)

This ... seems to me strong shades of the #AnthropicPrinciple: if we were living in a timeline in which such an existential threat had occurred ... we wouldn't be having the conversation right now.

Moreover, presuming You Only Die Once (Ian Flemming / James Bond notwithstanding), then of the entire universe of existential threats, only one can in fact be realised.

To read this as suggesting that this mean that all other potential risks are then irrelevant ... seems to me a Category Error of Unusual Size. Put another way: with enough potential trials (say, habitable worlds on which technological civilisations do arise) one might suspect that there are in fact numerous ways in which those meet their end. It's just that our tools for information gathering and transmission are somewhat unequal to the task of actually recording that, at least at present. And quite possibly for all time.

But in a Gedankenexperiment presuming an Actuarial Department of All Civilisations In The Universe there might very well be at least some experienced distribution of Civilisation Ending Events which could be catalogued and for which actuarial risk might be tabulated. The nature of the problem is similar to the distinction between risks ascribable to a single individual vs. an entire population.

As an illustration say, your individual risk of dying in an automobile accident might be roughly comparable to that of dying in a mass-extinction asteroid impact --- the latter are less frequent but have far greater magnitude.

(Asteroids also likely pose a far more consistent risk to individual lives over the entire history of the Earth than automobiles do --- roughly 4.5 billion years to date for the first, and about a buck-twenty-five centuries for the second.)

But even that comparison fails to capture what I see as a salient distinction between car wrecks and meteor strikes: odds are very low that everyone on Earth is involved in a fatal car collision at once, but high that they might perish in the same Large Impactor Event. Simply focusing on individual actuarial risk utterly ignores this.

But back to Pinker, Panglossianism, and dismissing catastrophic risk on the basis that it's not yet occurred: the dismissal is directly and intrinsically related to the nature of the threat itself, and in its own way actually validates the nature and scope of such threats.

It's also utterly irrelevant in any meaningful sense of characterising statistical likelihood as the objection is effectively a class of sampling error and self-selection bias.

Anyhow, that's what's been troubling my little head for the past day or so. And I don't think I've seen this expressed by anyone that I'm aware of (though as usual, I suspect it's not an entirely novel realisation). If this does sound familiar, cites/references are strongly encouraged.

#ExistentialThreats #CatastrophicRisk #EndOfTheWorld #CategoryError

We know that many of the most #educated generation in history work for near subsistence wages &or in unstable positions. #upwardmobility has been in general decline since the 1940's. We have consumed and polluted ourselves into #existentialthreats. US democracy is clearly deeply flawed. Yet! The "boot straps" "land of opportunity" "infinite growth" "There is no alternative" logic still persists. What's the most probable potential future? Does it include youth run French contraptions?

We know that many of the most #educated generation in history work for near subsistence wages &or in unstable positions. #upwardmobility has been in general decline since the 1940's. We have consumed and polluted our selves into #existentialthreats. US democracy is clearly deeply flawed. Yet! The "boot straps" "land of opportunity" "infinite growth" "There is no alternative" logic still persists. What's the most probable potential future? Does it include youth run French contraptions?

What is the present state of civilisation and challenges facing it?

(Piggybacking off @cwebber's thread / poll.)

Intent here is to focus on the relationship and scope of problems, not the specific problem(s) themselves, if any. Though I suspect some may wish to discuss that in comments....

#Poll #BigProblems #ExistentialThreats #Risk #ThreatPerceptions #PaulChefurka