(this is where, if I could #QuoteBoost myself, I'd do so with a pic of the 'porque no los dos' girl, with would nearly as a side comment/joke without disrupting the thread)

@ssfckdt @emmettoconnell @Lunatech Really?? I’ve never used the web client, and all the apps show you the post that a reply is too. Could this whole #quoteboost thing really just need an update to the web client so that replies marked Public will show what they are in response to, the way all the apps do??

@vcaston Correct, it's not a proper #quoteboost. It's more of a convenience until Mastodon has established a proper quote post. There are plans to implement a function that can be switched off by people so that abuse can be limited. I hope they'll implement it, seems to me to be the best solution (and in the spirit of the platform to give each user the power to create their experience).

Trying out @icecubesapp.

Pretty cool so far. Very sleek interface. It even has a #quoteboost feature (seems to work by fetching and displaying a preview of any link, whether it's on Mastodon or not). Could well replace Metatext, I think...

Here is another IOS client that offers quoting. it just turns a shared Toot URL into an inline quote but you should be aware they added that chat bot. - ChatGPT Integration, you can get a little help from your AI friend when composing your toot, it can help you correct your text or even shorten it! https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ice-cubes-for-mastodon/id6444915884 #QT #Twitter #QuoteTweet #QuoteToot #QuoteBoost

@Lunatech Well, it's good to hear that you're enjoying Mastodon more.

It's getting late, thanks for engaging. I hope I didn't come off as condescending. It's been an interesting new insight to the #quoteboost discussion for sure.

@ssfckdt @emmettoconnell

Honestly, I disagree with you on #quotetweet #quoteboost. I really hate it when I see what is obviously a reply but I have no idea what is being replied to. The web client doesn't give you a way to display the post that is being replied to. So you feel like you have just wandered into a room in the middle of a conversation but have no idea of what is being talked about. If I hadn't included tht hastags above, I'm sure some people would feel the same way when reading this toot.

@emmettoconnell My ultimate biggest issue with the #quotetweet #quoteboost debate isn't so much the functionality or the impact, but the fact that it is rooted in a mindset of making Mastodon into Twitter, and that's not just a fundamentally bad way of thinking, but sorely disappointing.

In addition to Hometown, soon, supporting quoting, it also has better #Accessibility defaults. For example, all links are underlined, and, most recently, images without alt text get a clear warning of missing alt text without any CSS installation by admins. To try an instance, see most instances here.

You can move instances and take your Mastodon followers to Hometown with you.

https://github.com/hometown-fork/hometown/wiki/Hometown-servers

#Hometown #QT #QuoteTweet #QuoteBoost

One reason I miss actual #QuoteToot or #QuoteBoost : A particular person I've muted keeps showing up on my t-line as people just link their post. Their huge avatar shows up as well on my app. It's annoying and frustrating. A QT system would block them from showing up or at least give me a warning.

It’s not the ability to #quoteboost
It’s the content of the #quoteboost

And I really want to call it a root-a-toot

One of the problems with just flinging capability URLs around rather than the whole post (e.g., for #QuoteBoost limitations) is how to prevent a thundering herd from landing on small servers.

Sending a URL to another party is fine and good for ten people, but it creates a challenge for small servers when something goes "viral."

How can we solve this while thinking about a #SafErFediverse?

One way would be to offer cache permissions.

@Carwil I so want to #Quoteboost this post with a simple "THIS." but I cant without the complicated copy the line post the link turn around three time trickidy Trick.

@rachel_norfolk

1. A lot of people disagree that it "simply isn't needed" here. Especially among various Black, Disabled, and Autistic groups.

2. As I wrote here: https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/109570398804403826

To whatever extent the #QuoteBoost is not the correct solution, I'd rather look at the use case and try to solve that.

3. You seem to have taken a wrong turn: I do this because it is fun to think through. As I have said repeatedly: I have no particular investment in the success of this platform.

The times I most wish there were quote boosts here is when I want to add hashtags to something that I wish could be more widely seen.
#QuoteBoost
#Quote
#Mastodon

The times I most wish there were quote boosts here is when I want to add hashtags to something that I wish could before widely seen.
#QuoteBoost
#Quote
#Mastodon

@baeuchle Ok, I see what you mean. Yes, I use the "advanced" view in the web client and I always click on a post if I'm interested enough to see the conversation (additional parts of a thread, replies), so that it loads on another column and I have more space and time to check it.

So for me clicking a #QuoteBoost to see the parent post feels natural, but different people have different habits. (Which is good! I hope the official clients will never condition users to behave in one specific way.)

If your concern for harassment via #QuoteTweet / #QuoteBoost is an account like LibsOfTikTok let's look at the strategies we can use to prevent such an instigator as a case study:

1. Moderators can (and should) ban them on any server they show up on. Moderation is moderation here.

2. Absent on-server moderation, there's defederation.

3. We can find ways to limit what the instigator account can see of their targets timelines.

@Mab

QT stands for "Quote Tweet" which is what it is called on twitter when you re-share a post with a comment appended to the top.

Here it would be called "Quote Boost" since we don't have tweets on here. We have "posts," and they get "boosted" :)

#qt #quoteboost #quotetweet

On a lot of #QuoteBoost / #QuoteTweet / #QuoteToot discourse I think on what Neil Gaiman would say about comments from readers: if they say "this does not work for me" then they are almost certainly correct; if they say "this is what is wrong and how to fix it" they are almost certainly wrong.

Which is to say: Maybe QTs are not the correct solution here! But in that case I wish people would listen or the use case and find alternatives when people ask for it, rather than simply shutting it down.