@joepie91 *nodds in agreement*

HE.net only exercises their rights as a commercial entity to act in their best interests and the interests of their customers.

#AS397702 clearly is a #RogueISP and #DROP'ping (#DontRouteOrPeer) all traffic to and from them is their right to do so to protect their own networks from malware and spam.
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.asn.block.list.tsv

This is standard practice for decades.

@olives @KelsonV @eff 7. Considering 1776 Solutions is a #RogueISP, #DROP is an act of self- and mutual defense against being abused.

Just like blocking all traffic from GeoIP'd ASNs originating from Russia, China and North Korea is usually considered an act of self- and mutual IT defense.

8. #HE could've chosen to instead force the other providers connecting #AS397702 to DROP them under threat of terminating them as customers, but that would've had actual collateral damages.

@olives nah.

It's an act of self-defense against an ASN that is a "#RogueISP"...

If you think that's the first time or the only reason #ISPs haven't #DROP'd them or any other network, then you ignore the existance of #Spamhaus for decades.

https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/110987470524664901

And yes, if you provide #hategrooming forums like #KiwiFarms with #transit or #DDoS protection, you are part of the problem when you act like #RogueISP's and refuse to react upon complaints.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYkFYmqJYvE

@eff This includes the well-known #RogueISP #CloudFlare...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4n6zmajfsM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare#Kiwi_Farms

@mairin seriously, wtf?

You shou contact @fosstodon and tell them to stop doing that!

But since they use a #RogueISP known as #CloudFlare I'd not put my hope up high...
https://fosstodon.org/@fosstodon/110830947928400660

@overcastfm Seriously, #CloudFlare is a #RogueISP and should be unpligged for hosting #Daesh #Propaganda sites...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAH4sa0aVDM&t=1123s

@tarnkappeinfo #CloudFlare ist IMHO nen #RogueISP und auch nichts anderes als #ValueRemoving #RentSeeker und effektiv legales #Schutzgeld-Business...

@iatendril OFC they can do something about their own customers they host, provide servers and/or domains to and thate are cringe asshats from the USA...

It's just that #GoDaddy decided not to do so explicitly and stating something aling the lines of:

'If you want to complain about a customer of ours spamming, then fuck off and make them stop spamming'...

They are a #RogueISP that knowingly supports #Spammers that illegally spam me.

@basisbit @fluepke @jaseg

*nodds in agreement*

I'm more pissed off by #RogueISP|s that refuse to react to duely-made and legitimate #abuse reports.

For example, #GoDaddy literally harbours most of the #Spammers I've to deal with since they don't even bother to react to #AbuseReports at all and instead sent automated replies from a #NoReply adress telling that they won't do jack shite - even if one goes through their arcane #ticketing system to refile as demanded.

@alexis I consider #CloudFlare a #RogueISP and would literally block their entire AS alongside all the #GAFAMs simply because they don't react to proper abuse reports and only yeeted KiwiFarms once customers canceled contracts in droves...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYkFYmqJYvE

Seriously there is no legitimate reason to use CloudFlare...
They are neither good nor cheap...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4n6zmajfsM

@amberage as a matter of favt, #BlueSky won't even comply with criminal codes and delete #CSAM.

This is a red line for even the most shady "#FreezePeach!!!" and #malware-dostributing #RogueISP|s!

Which is why I've put them on my :activitypub: blocklist.
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/issues/35

Needless to say I hope regulators like #FCC & @BNetzA will pull the pugs on them at the first report of it actually happening...

@netzpolitik_feed was aber auch daran liegt, dass selbst "#RogueISP's" sowas nicht dulden.

Einzige bekannte Ausnahmen sind jene die wissentlich und aktiv #KiwiFarms hosten, denn jenes #Hategrooming-#Forum hat sich der #Terror|isierung von Minderheiten jenseits von #StochastischemTerrorismus verschrieben und wurde wegen #CSAM schon von diversen bona-fide - Hostern gefeuert!

@mar @mia

There's a proverb in German languague that goes: "Those who want change for the better will work towards it. Those that don't will find excuses" and that pretty much sums it up.

Luckily there are easy ways to yeet toxic shitheads off the interwebs and everyone who enables and/or supports them:

#DROP (#DontRouteOrPeer) works, as #Spamhaus shows in terms of #RogueISP's.
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.asn.block.list.tsv
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.ipv4.block.list.tsv
https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/drop.ipv6.block.list.tsv

@kdy #CloudFlare and it's ableist, anti-privacy bs should be illegal.

They are acting as a #RogueISP and literally operate a legal #Racketeering scheme.

And yes, I mean #DDoS - #protection should be done by any provider and if that means they've to #blackhole attackers via #BGP on their IXes and Upstreams then so be it.

@zakiuem @atomicpoet @shoq #CloudFlare is a #RogueISP and has always been.

Not only do they knowingly host #Daesh #propaganda & recruting sites but only yeeted beyond- #StochasticTerrorism & #hategrooming #froum #KiwiFarms once big customers threatened to yeet CloudFlare as well as mass boycott of their entire AS as per #DropKiwifarms operation.

@ArneBab @jeff @BNetzA it's a matter of principle:

#CloudFlare is part of the problem, not the solution, since their business model is more or less a Racketeering scheme...

Just because it's legal doesn't make it less bad.

And that ignores the fact rhat #CloudFlare acts like a #RogueISP and refuses to follow basic standards like exercising due diligence and taking reports seriously.