If you're in the UK and have a few mins, please sign the petition to get #VirginMedia to listen to its customers and roll out IPv6 support: https://chng.it/nrKjFFxLTL

#virginmedia is down yet again. This is beyond ridiculous now

I'm not sure that this isn't faint praise, but credit to #VirginMedia:

When On Demand goes down on the 1st day of the month, at least there's an accessible notice telling me that it's a known telecommunications equipment problem in my area.

It does mean that I didn't get to watch the final season of #PersonOfInterest today, as planned.

@witewulf

Ironically, as I mentioned before, where the SIP, and the VoIP, are on the Hub is on the Ethernet side. One can just plug a VoIP 'phone in, although VM itself won't talk SIP to residential customers.

There's yet another bloody ALG, of course; which is one of the several reasons that I never followed through and set myself up with a domestic SIP 'phone years ago.

I have, because of #VirginMedia's move, just revisited that decision for the first time in years.

#LandlineDowngrade

@witewulf Well you haven't been explaining. You've been _asserting_, just like all the other people around the WWW that I mentioned.

There is no actual evidence, either from what #VirginMedia actually says or from anywhere else other than people on WWW discussion fora making assertions, that there's any IP involved. What the signalling is, I haven't been able to turn up from an authoritative source. Hell, Virgin is pretty coy even about its "special adapter".

#LandlineDowngrade

@witewulf You're a telecoms engineer who clearly isn't up to date with #VirginMedia.

You should know that it's turning this stuff on and getting rid of the dedicated lines for telephone service. It's my part of the country's turn. It's being sold to subscribers as an upgrade, but it's actually a #LandlineDowngrade, a cost-cutting measure.

@witewulf

Not true. The "over IP" part is lacking, so it is _not_ in fact VoIP. Voice is not in the IP traffic on the wire, and from what I've been able to discover it's not using IP in its own little band either. As I said, there's no actual VoIP involved anywhere here.

The irony is that the "VoIP capable" part of a #VirginMedia Hub is the Ethernet bit, not the "TEL" bit, and has been all along. One's been able to connect a VoIP 'phone that way for years.

#LandlineDowngrade

@bytebro

The irony is that anyone who had ISDN in the 1980s/1990s will know the situation well.

You will have to provide the power at your end, and either a UPS or an auxiliary cell 'phone for emergency calls when the power is out.

That said, I discovered as a child that our exchange had tone dialling. We just didn't know because we had a pulse-dial 'phone. I quickly made use of it when I got my first #modem. So it was even an anachronism back then.

#VirginMedia #LandlineDowngrade

@witewulf

#VirginMedia itself says that isn't VoIP in the hubs either. Its doco explains that it's a separate frequency band down the cable, not transmitted in the IP traffic at all. There's no actual VoIP to the customer in any of this, nor any prospect of it.

That hasn't stopped people for the past ~2 years excitedly posting that switching from BS plug with LD to an RJ11 plug with LD somehow portends VoIP in the future.

This is solely a cost-cutting measure.

#LandlineDowngrade

Interestingly, whilst I have loads of cables with RJ11 at one end and BS telephone plug at the other, I don't have one with RJ11 at both ends in my big box of telephone stuff. Oh well. £3.50 at ScrewFix.

ScrewFix thinks that it's an "Ethernet cable".

The big problems are that I will no longer have an always-powered landline, and it's on the opposite side of the house.

#VirginMedia #LandlineDowngrade

It's rather saddening to learn that:

(a) The TEL ports on the back of the Virgin Hub are just 6P2C RJ11 ports.

(b) I've owned an adapter for connecting a BS telephone plug to these for 30 years. So much for this "special adapter".

(c) Ironically, my landline 'phone has RJ11 at its end anyway, so I just need to swap in a plain RJ11-to-RJ11 cable.

(d) As it's still LD, this is clearly in no way a precursor to VoIP, as people have speculated all over the WWW.

#VirginMedia #LandlineDowngrade

@aroundthehills

As I noted in https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/110243870032616840, I have mine turned on, after _years_ of it being turned off, just to see what happens, which is _supposed_ to be nothing at all. It will be quite amusing if something actually does.

I must remember to look around again for some kit to cope with when #VirginMedia will break my land line later this year, too. I saw some on eBay a fortnight ago, but missed it.

#EmergencyAlerts #MobileTelephones

Just got new broadband and I love that stuff that used to be blocked on #virginmedia is not on #HeyBroadband . Proper happy with the service. #isp #london

Telecoms firms accused of overcharging landline-only customers by £200m
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/apr/19/telecoms-firms-accused-of-overcharging-landline-only-customers-by-200m
#TalkTalk #VirginMedia #SSE #RipOff

With #virginmedia going offline twice yesterday, I'm glad I was using #homeassistant so at least the majority of my #smarthome didn't go completely offline...

#VirginMedia - virgin on the bloody ridiculous.

So glad I left #virginmedia last month

For all you poor #virginMedia customers with no service this morning: they had a couple of big outages over night, but things seem to have settled now - https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/04/major-network-outage-strikes-broadband-isp-virgin-media-uk.html

Heads up #VirginMedia people WFH. Unplanned day off for you 😀
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/04/major-network-outage-strikes-broadband-isp-virgin-media-uk.html

RT @outagedetect
⚡ Moderate Internet #outage detected: #VirginMedia in #England since 06:50

🇬🇧 Live map and analysis
👉 https://internet.fing.com/provider/Virgin%20Media/GB/England?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=dropdetect

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