@pairko @rrwo @cstross Not a splintering or improvement. Ironically, #libertarianism was originally very leftist anti-#capitalist and mostly #anarchism. The term was co-opted by American #anarchocapitalists (“#ancaps”) in the middle of the last century who cherry-picked #AynRand’s politics of #capitalism and ignored the rest of her #philosophy of #Objectivism that it rested on. That’s why she sussed #libertarians out so quickly as intellectual frauds.
#libertarianism #capitalist #anarchism #anarchocapitalists #ancaps #aynrand #capitalism #philosophy #objectivism #libertarians
#AnCaps when they're trying to LARP the "Anarcho" part of their shit ideology be like:
https://kolektiva.social/@patricklee/110003327339826875
- avec vos mots, comment décririez-vous les libertariens ?
- chat domestiques. Ils sont convaincus de leur farouche indépendance tout en dépendant totalement d’un système qu’ils n’apprécient pas ou ne comprennent pas
😂
#libertarien #libertarianisme et je pense aussi aux #ancaps #AnarchoCapitalistes
#AnarchoCapitalistes #ancaps #libertarianisme #libertarien
Just started this and the first few minutes laid a damn good foundation for understanding the origins of the #2008 financial crisis and how #crypto and #NFTs were born out of that by #AnCaps and #Lolberts.
The video is from early 2022 and has held up remarkably well, all things considered.
I'm planning to finish it later after daylight has expired. Need my #vitaminD now.
#Bitcoin #Cryptocurrency #NFT #vitamind #lolberts #ancaps #nfts #Crypto
tbqh, the extent to which anarchists think #ancaps want to infiltrate spaces and covertly spread their ideas is both deeply fucking embarassing and unintentionally flattering to the #paleolibertarian right. Let's start with the latter point:
In case you're not aware, the US #Libertarian Party was recently taken over by the "Mises Caucus," a far-right contingent of an already rightist political organization. Since their self-avowed "takeover," they have lost the party thousands in donor revenue, lost several state affiliates, and allowed the official twitter account to get hacked due to botched authentication (back when this was a function on birdsite ofc). TLDR, these people can't run jack shit beyond edgelord messageboards and a middling alt-right twitter presence, and they certainly can't convince anyone outside their echo chambers of their "libertarian" credentials.
Of course, that's not the point of their strategy; the Mises Caucus isn't trying to convince anyone of their libertarianism, their explicitly ancap figureheads completely ambivalent towards the recognition of their self-avowed anarchism, and their predecessors only marginally less so. Rothbard claimed he and his people "captured a crucial word from the enemy," but beyond this "linguistic theft," the organizing principles of the modern libertarian right aren't exactly characteristic of the tankie or third positionist grifts we've seen in the past. If anything, the libertarian right has made abundantly clear its open hostility towards egalitarian rhetoric, leftist imagery, and the individuals who populate radical spaces. They want nothing to do with us, and whenever they try to fabricate common ground with actual anarchists, they fuck up miserably.
None of this is meant to dismiss the great and genuine threat these reactionaries pose as footsoldiers of the New Right, only to make clear the general fact that they are anything but stealthy in their endeavors. Infiltration that's easy to spot immediately isn't worth as many eyes as those who lurk passively and corrode networks of trust.
My first point, informed by these observations, is that anarchists in specific are hung up to an embarassing degree over the "ancaps aren't real anarchists" discourse - particularly those few vocal individuals who have more to say on the question than an unambiguous "no" or "yes." I characterize this as embarassing because it takes way too much of our precious, increasingly scarce time on earth that could be spent addressing bigger problems than cancelling a #marketanarchist account on birdsite for saying "ancaps ARE real anarchists."
Imagine for a moment what kind of movement we'd have if most of our time - even just a significant, non-majority proportion - was spent explaining why the USSR wasn't socialist. We don't really need to imagine that, now do we? All we need is a quick glance towards the Marxist-Leninists and see how misguided such a myopia is in pursuit of radical change. While it is indeed true that the USSR wasn't socialist by the most consistent definition, just as it's true anarcho-capitalism isn't a part of "anarchism proper," these points are not hard to explain and, more importantly, are *single* points worth only a small portion of our time. They are not, on their own, measurements of another individual's radicalism. If the world were so simple, we'd have fixed it by now.
Do not confuse major difference within a milieu for fundamental hostility. A friendly #LWMA (left-wing market anarchist) isn't a mystical wizard using a koch-funded spell to trick ancoms into voting for Ron Paul; they're most likely an accomplice in the struggle that just so happens to have different beliefs than you that, while distinct, are not mutually exclusive from yours. Ancaps aren't anarchists, sure, but there's no rule saying they can never become one. I mean, I can't be the only one right?
#ancaps #paleolibertarian #libertarian #MarketAnarchist #lwma
tbqh, the extent to which anarchists think #ancaps want to infiltrate spaces and covertly spread their ideas is both deeply fucking embarassing and unintentionally flattering to the #paleolibertarian right. Let's start with the latter point:
In case you're not aware, the US #Libertarian Party was recently taken over by the "Mises Caucus," a far-right contingent of an already rightist political organization. Since their self-avowed "takeover," they have lost the party thousands in donor revenue, lost several state affiliates, and allowed the official twitter account to get hacked due to botched authentication (back when this was a function on birdsite ofc). TLDR, these people can't run jack shit beyond edgelord messageboards and a middling alt-right twitter presence, and they certainly can't convince anyone outside their echo chambers of their "libertarian" credentials.
Of course, that's not the point of their strategy; the Mises Caucus isn't trying to convince anyone of their libertarianism, their explicitly ancap figureheads completely ambivalent towards the recognition of their self-avowed anarchism, and their predecessors only marginally less so. Rothbard claimed he and his people "captured a crucial word from the enemy," but beyond this "linguistic theft," the organizing principles of the modern libertarian right aren't exactly characteristic of the tankie or third positionist grifts we've seen in the past. If anything, the libertarian right has made abundantly clear its open hostility towards egalitarian rhetoric, leftist imagery, and the individuals who populate radical spaces. They want nothing to do with us, and whenever they try to fabricate common ground with actual anarchists, they fuck up miserably.
None of this is meant to dismiss the great and genuine threat these reactionaries pose as footsoldiers of the New Right, only to make clear the general fact that they are anything but stealthy in their endeavors. Infiltration that's easy to spot immediately isn't worth as many eyes as those who lurk passively and corrode networks of trust.
My first point, informed by these observations, is that anarchists in specific are hung up to an embarassing degree over the "ancaps aren't real anarchists" discourse - particularly those few vocal individuals who have more to say on the question than an unambiguous "no" or "yes." I characterize this as embarassing because it takes way too much of our precious, increasingly scarce time on earth that could be spent addressing bigger problems than cancelling a #marketanarchist account on birdsite for saying "ancaps ARE real anarchists."
Imagine for a moment what kind of movement we'd have if most of our time - even just a significant, non-majority proportion - was spent explaining why the USSR wasn't socialist. We don't really need to imagine that, now do we? All we need is a quick glance towards the Marxist-Leninists and see how misguided such a myopia is in pursuit of radical change. While it is indeed true that the USSR wasn't socialist by the most consistent definition, just as it's true anarcho-capitalism isn't a part of "anarchism proper," these points are not hard to explain and, more importantly, are *single* points worth only a small portion of our time. They are not, on their own, measurements of another individual's radicalism. If the world were so simple, we'd have fixed it by now.
Do not confuse major difference within a milieu for fundamental hostility. A friendly #LWMA (left-wing market anarchist) isn't a mystical wizard using a koch-funded spell to trick ancoms into voting for Ron Paul; they're most likely an accomplice in the struggle that just so happens to have different beliefs than you that, while distinct, are not mutually exclusive from yours. Ancaps aren't anarchists, sure, but there's no rule saying they can never become one. I mean, I can't be the only one right?
#ancaps #paleolibertarian #libertarian #MarketAnarchist #lwma
Propertarians—neoliberals, “an”caps, and others who work ideologically for the propertied class—imagine that freedom can coexist with private property.
By that latter, I’m specifically talking about private ownership of the means of production, the resources and social processes we use together to materially and socially provision ourselves.
But what if you found yourself completely surrounded—enclosed, if you would, by other peoples’ private property?
Propertarians call this “entrapment” and add a kludge to their logic: if you’re entrapped by someone else’s property, you have a right to an *easement* to transition through their property.
On the other side, most of them* pretend, you’ll find unowned resources you can “homestead” by mixing your labor, transforming it magically into your permanently private property.
There’s a big problem with this idea, though: human beings have been around as a distinct species for probably over 200,000 years and we’ve inhabited most of the planet for tens of thousands of years:
“Even 12,000 y ago, nearly three quarters of Earth’s land was inhabited and therefore shaped by human societies, including more than 95% of temperate and 90% of tropical woodlands.”
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2023483118
There’s no more homesteading unowned land. That ship sailed millennia ago. Private property is utterly incompatible with any meaningful freedom to say no to others. There is no anarchism compatible with capitalism.
#anarchism #capitalism #ancaps #propertarianism #anticapitalism #property #privateproperty #archeology #anthropology
#anarchism #capitalism #ancaps #propertarianism #anticapitalism #Property #PrivateProperty #archeology #anthropology
@daeyoung Sounds like you're describing #AnCaps more than #Libertarians.
Most principled libertarians are perfectly fine with privately-moderated spaces and while they don't like #Regulation in general, they recognize the need for some in the financial industry to prevent widespread exploitation. They just want the least government regulation necessary to achieve that goal.
#ancaps #libertarians #regulation
The end of @HBO as we know it. What a #fail!
#anarchism #ancaps #xp
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RT @Sovereign_Beast
>Be HBO
>Decide to make a documentary about anarchists
>Try to find anarchists willing to let us film them
>They keep saying 'fuck off, fed boy' and chasing my camera crews off
>Finally find a group willing to let me film them
>They're ancaps https://twitter.com/S_dot_K_dot/status/1545125111325507585
https://twitter.com/Sovereign_Beast/status/1545169333004951552
#Gab users are not all #Nazis. If you claim that you are just wrong there are many #Libertarians, #Ancaps, #Christians and non political #Gamers who simply want a neutral platform to allow them to express themselves without fear of purging by Silicon valley elitists. Judge individuals and not groups because that is the same methodology as the people you oppose.
#gab #nazis #libertarians #ancaps #christians #gamers
Is there any #peertube instance for #libertarians, #ancaps, and #voluntaryists?
#peertube #libertarians #ancaps #voluntaryists
We just broke the 50 user mark on #Liberdon! 50 #libertarians, #ancaps, #anarchists, #voluntaryists, #agorists, etc have joined the community. It may not sound huge but that's a big deal in just a few days! Liberdon: the #libertarian launchpad to the #fediverse 🚀🌃
#liberdon #libertarians #ancaps #anarchists #voluntaryists #agorists #libertarian #fediverse
#meme #ancap #ancaps #anarchocapitalism #nazi #Anarchism