Debate concluded

Motion 7312 moved to a vote, and division

5 minute delay as people log into the electronic voting system

Motion 7312 (GRR(S)B) vote:

Yes: 86
No:39
Abstain:0

Margin:+47

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill passes Stage 3

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FUCKING YES \o/

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Tries to claim that the government could have done more to allay the fears of women

(Personal note on that: But those fears are entirely unfounded and that point was repeatedly raised, along with evidence to go with it, during every point of this process

The fault lies with those who deliberately spread lies about what trans rights are and what they mean and do)

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Oh G_ddess, now the full on transphobia of "male-bodied person"

I'm a woman. I'm female. My body is my own and no others. By definition it can only be a female body

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Pam Gosal now speaking

And that's all my coverage of that particular transphobe

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Brian Whittle now speaking to spew the same lies the Tories love to use. 'Of course he isn't against trans rights! He just wants to use the claim of predatory men hiding amongst us to oppose trans rights because a fig leaf is better than no leaf!!!'

(Also a note for people aware of the filibuster attempts over the past 3 days by the Tories on this. There's a strict 4 minute limit on each speaker's contribution during the open debate on this stage of the Stage 3 process of the Bill. We are currently in the open debate)

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I now have a Ko-Fi setup for pizza donations!

But please, please, please, please don't tip me if it leaves yourself short. Self-care is considerably more important than my desire for pizza

ko-fi.com/jazsakurarose

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Rachael Hamilton on her feet and straight out the gate with lies. 'The views of women and girls were ignored'

I point to all 3 consultations carried out on this and the evidence gathering sessions that shows that isn't true

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The final stage of debate of the Stage 3 process of GRR(S)B has started

If anything of interest pops up I'll put it in this post and edit as I go along

Cabinet Secretary points out that this Bill was a manifesto commitment and one of the improvements highlighted as being needed by Better Scotland

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I'm going to do something that's considered somewhat foolish, and that's to attempt to predict the final vote on the GRR(S)B

My prediction is For:83, Against: 38

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It's currently First Minister questions and already the Tories are on their feet and attempting to conflate trans people with sex offenders. It's pathetic and, frankly, vile

And then the Tories go on to claim that trans people being recognised as ourselves is somehow an undefined threat to women and children. Nothing new, of course. "Won't somebody think of the women and children?!?!" is the oldest line in every bigot's handbook, including my older votes against enacting legislation that makes it illegal to discriminate against somebody because of their race or ethnicity

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While we're waiting I've found some of the missing info from last night (had to go into the Dev Tools on Chrome to locate the text that wasn't showing on the screen 🤣​)

In total the last votes were:

"Amendment 90A moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 90A falls:

Yes: 52
No: 71
Abstained: 3

Margin: -19

Amendment 90 pressed to a vote, and division

Amendment 90A passes:

Yes: 124
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +124

Amendment 134 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 134 falls:

Yes: 54
No: 70
Abstained: 1

Margin: -16

Amendment 135 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 135 falls:

Yes: 54
No: 73
Abstained: 0

Margin: -19

Amendment 90A moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 90A falls:

Yes: 52
No: 71
Abstained: 3

Margin: -19

Amendment 91 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 91 passes:

Yes: 123
No: 0
Abstained: 3

Margin: +123

Amendment 92 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 92 falls:

Yes: 37
No: 89
Abstained: 0

Margin: -52

Amendment 136 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 136 falls:

Yes: 32
No: 95
Abstained: 0

Margin: -63

Amendment 141 not moved to a vote, and the drafter gives the chamber a stern talking to if they're thinking of moving it for him

Amendment 137 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 137 falls:

Yes: 34
No: 93
Abstained: 0

Margin: -59

Amendment 138 moved to a vote and passes with no division

Amendment 139 moved to a vote, and this is the final last one. Yay \o/. Passes. Without. Fucking. Division

My initial take-away on the past two days of debate?

FUCK THE TORIES

I will do more detailed washup on all of this at some point, likely after the passage of the Bill during the second stage of Stage 3, so probably Friday daytime"

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Good morning! Welcome to the day that the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill will pass through Parliament

I won't be able to cover in full today as I'm going to spend some much needed time with my partner, but will pop in every so often to see how things go

However, I can confidently predict that the Tories and SNP rebels will whine about the Bill 'being rushed through' despite debating Stage 3 amendments for over 20 hours and every speaker having as long as they need to speak, and how passing this will exterminate all women everywhere and across all time

Everybody else will just get on with passing the Bill

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cries softly

I've just realised I edited over post 142 and that had the last set of amendments called to vote in it

I can't recover them from the Edit History, so I'll try and redo all of them tomorrow

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I'll also add a big thank you to everybody who's thanked me for doing this coverage. It means a lot to me that doing things like this is a positive benefit to people

And a really big thank you to my two partners who can somehow manage to cope with me when I suddenly move into intensive-work-mode and then collapse near-incapable of coherent thought for several weeks after 🤣

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Amendment 90A moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 90A falls:

Yes: 52
No: 71
Abstained: 3

Margin: -19

Amendment 90 pressed to a vote, and division

Amendment 90 passes:

Yes: 124
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +124

Amendment 134 moved to a vote, and division (penultimate vote on amendments, | think)

Amendment 134 falls:

Yes:
No:
Abstained:

Margin:

{{Space for Amendment vote}}

Extremely good people of Mastodon — We Are Done For The Day And For This Stage Of Stage 3

wild whooping and cheering

We hit Hour 21 of debating the amendments to what is actually a fairly simple Bill. This is what transphobia looks like when it's in a legislative chamber. And it's ugly as fuck

My initial take-away on the past two days of debate?

FUCK THE TORIES

I will do more detailed washup on all of this at some point, likely after the passage of the Bill tomorrow during the second stage of Stage 3, so probably Friday daytime

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Amendment 80 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 80 passes:

Yes: 125
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +125

Amendment 81 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 81 passes:

Yes: 125
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +125

Amendment 82 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 82 passes:

Yes: 124
No: 1
Abstained: 1

Margin: +123

Amendment 83 moved to a vote, vote delayed for 83A

Amendment 83A moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 83 falls:

Yes: 53
No: 73
Abstained: 1

Margin: -20

Amendment 83 pressed to a vote, and division

Amendment 83 passed:

Yes: 125
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +125

Amendment 84 moved to a vote, vote deferred for 84A

Amendment 84A not moved to a vote

Amendment 84 pressed to a vote, and division

Amendment 84 passes:

Yes: 125
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +125

Amendment 85 moved to a vote, and division:

Amendment 85 passes:

Yes: 120
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +120

Amendment 86 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 86 passes:

Yes: 124
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +124

Amendment 87 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 87 passes

Yes: 124
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +124

Amendment 88 not moved to a vote

Amendment 89 moved to a vote and passes without division

Amendment 90 moved to a vote, vote deferred for amendment 90A

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Amendment 71 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 71 passes:

Yes: 64
No: 63
Abstained: 0

Margin: +1

(sigh Whipping discipline has gone out the window for the SNP)

Amendment 131 moved to a vote, and division:

Amendment 131 falls:

Yes: 53
No: 73
Abstained: 0

Margin: -20

Amendment 132 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 132 falls:

Yes: 54
No: 73
Abstained: 0

Margin: -19

Amendment 133 not moved by the drafter, but another Tory (arsehole) moves it to a vote, and division

Amendment 133 falls:

Yes: 53
No: 73
Abstained: 1

Margin: -20

Amendment 75 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 75 passes:

Yes: 120
No: 5
Abstained: 2

Margin: +115

Amendment 76 moved to a vote, and division

(Voting deferred to take 76A first)

Amendment 76a moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 76A falls:

Yes: 54
No: 69
Abstained: 3

Margin: -15

Amendment 76 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 76 passes:

Yes: 123
No: 2
Abstained: 2

Margin: +121

Amendment 77 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 77 passes:

Yes: 124
No: 1
Abstained: 2

Margin: +123

Amendment 78 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 78 passes:

Yes: 124
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +124

Amendment 79 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 79 passes:

Yes: 125
No: 0
Abstained: 2

Margin: +125

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Amendment 69 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 69 falls:

Yes: 55
No: 70
Abstained: 0

Margin: -15

Amendment 70 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 70 falls:

Yes: 53
No: 71
Abstained: 0

Margin: -18

Amendment 126 moved to a vote, and division:

Amendment 126 falls:

Yes: 58
No: 66
Abstained: 0

Margin: -8

(fucking Labour)

Amendment 72 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 72 falls:

Yes: 32
No: 94
Abstained: 0

Margin: -62

Amendment 73 moved to a vote, and division

Yes: 54
No: 72
Abstained: 0

Margin: -18

Amendment 74 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 74 falls:

Yes: 54
No: 72
Abstained: 0

Margin: -18

Amendment 127 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 127 falls:

Yes: 54
No: 68
Abstained: 5

Margin: -14

Amendment 128 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 128 falls:

Yes: 58
No: 67
Abstained: 0

Margin: -9

Amendment 129 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 129 falls:

Yes: 59
No: 66
Abstained: 0

Margin: -7

Amendment 130 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 130 falls:

Yes: 60
No: 66
Abstained: 1

Margin: -6

Amendment 13 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 13 falls:

Yes: 62
No: 63
Abstained: 0

Margin: -1

(sorry, but what the fuck is Labour playing at?)

Amendment 14 moved to a vote, and division

Amendment 14 falls:

Yes: 59
No: 68
Abstained: 0

Margin: -9

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Amendment 69 and 70 moved by Pam Gosal (don't dare say 'noice' on that Jaz. Not to that Tory transphobic fuckwit)

These are data collection amendments and 69 and 70 are nasty. They require minister to collect and publish the number of 'detransitioners' and a breakdown of those numbers by sex, etc

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