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Can confirm after the fact, CHEZ 106 kept playing "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" back to back until about 600p.
Question for anyone familiar with #Scheme programming, and in particular #Guile (@wingo): how hard would it be to port GOOPS to other Scheme implementations like #Chez, #Gauche, Gerbil, or Chicken? I know that other Scheme implementations provide their own #OOP systems (e.g. Chicken COOPS), but what if I want my library written in Guile to be more portable, could I still use GOOPS and try to move the code over to some other platform?
Or has this already been done? Is there a portable GOOPS, akin to a large Scheme library such as SLIB?
#scheme #guile #chez #gauche #oop #r7rs #r6rs #r5rs
@rml @theruran @vollmerm
I love how the minimal #Chez interpreter (without the compiler) on x86_64 Linux is only 346800 bytes. That is _small_ and minimal. But still the Chez compiler is best-in-class, producing the among the fastest and smallest binaries of any Lisp.
That said, Guile's #GPL licensing and it's use in #GuixOS, and it's extensive collection of libraries and SRFI support, make #Guile a superior choice for practical applications (IMHO). Also now I know of someone working on porting the "PreScheme" compiler from Scheme48 (a Scheme subset with no garbage collector) to Guile for use in building low-level high-performance binaries: https://gitlab.com/flatwhatson/guile-prescheme
> "I promise I'll convince everyone here that types are good by the end of this talk"
As a Haskeller, I do not need convincing at all. One thing that got me to even pay attention to #Scheme however was a conversation with a friend, William Byrd -- by the way, who's dissertation is in relational logic programming from the University of Indiana under Dan Friedman, same school as the presenter in this video -- explained to me that the power of Scheme comes from both it's minimalism, but also it's macro system which you can use to implement any type system you might want. Byrd told me he is frustrated by the world kind of gravitating toward the Hindley Milner type checking algorithm used by OCaml, F#, Haskell, Typed-Racket, Coalton, Carp, and PreScheme, as if it is the end-all-be-all of type systems.
So anyway, Will Byrd convinced me how cool it is being able to use any type system at all in Scheme. Hindley-Milner, CSP, Pi Calculus, Calculus of Constructs, Separation Logic, Location Calculus (which I just now learned about!), Borrow Checking and Linear Types (from Rust), or maybe even more exotic constraints systems modeled on physics -- use whatever is best for your problem domain.
#chez #gpl #guixos #guile #scheme
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None of you clever sods got around to doing this, so I had to.
#AntifaschistischeRekursion #Antifa #Lisp #Scheme #Racket #CommonLisp #Guile #Chez #Recursion #ThisREPLKillsFascists
#antifaschistischerekursion #antifa #lisp #scheme #racket #commonlisp #guile #chez #recursion #thisreplkillsfascists
"Using the compiled #scheme code is around 470x faster than our current interpreter, at least for this simple arithmetic loop."
The #Unison project on replacing their compiler backend with #Chez scheme
https://www.unison-lang.org/whats-new/jit-announce/
#scheme #unison #chez #lisp #compilers
a program I find myself returning to often is Kent Dybvig's "register machine" oriented structure editor from 1987, edit.ss in the #Chez examples:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cisco/ChezScheme/main/examples/edit.ss
shit slaps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfLQX_WNtQU #Kurt #Chez #Krömer und #Irrelevant! Das muss #Mann gesehen haben! So absurd, dass so was möglich ist. Wie kann #Mann nur erwarten, als #Grö*** in dieser Show auch nur einen Stich zu machen. #HeilandschmeissHirn. Wenn ich nicht gerade schon breit wäre, müsste ich mir darauf einen kippen! #Springer #Reichelt #Poschardt #Bild #Welt #Autolobotomie
#kurt #chez #kromer #Irrelevant #Mann #gro #heilandschmeisshirn #Springer #Reichelt #poschardt #bild #welt #autolobotomie
#racket's version of #chez #scheme supports building under #emscripten
https://github.com/racket/racket/commit/636a4669db802887fbfe87b7390eaf4b55d89e0d
#racket #chez #scheme #emscripten
Racket on Chez Scheme status:
https://blog.racket-lang.org/2021/01/racket-status.html
#scheme #chez #racket
Pro: Racket's got a ton of libraries, good docs, a lot of people invested in training.
It's a huge win for keeping Chez maintained.
Con: "Dr" Racket's GUI editor/"REPL" that destroys your REPL state every time you save the editor infuriates me.
It'll always be slower than just using Chez directly.
Just use Chez! https://scheme.com