Something's broken in the #opensource world if a developer ponders if it might have been the biggest mistake in his life to make his #project, #corejs in this case, #oss. We need better #financing models and #funding. It's not all about #money, but it cannot run without either.

Thanks @vsaw for making me aware of this story via his post
https://mastodon.social/@vsaw/109861860709442787

Or read directly the developer's post (the story's a hard one, but recommended nevertheless): https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md

@kkarhan Personally I just think that using #BSD, #MIT or #X11 licenses is a good way to end up like #MINIX (used for pervasive #proprietary malware) or #CoreJS (no money & used as a pillar of the corpo-backed ecosystem), but strictly-speaking they cover all of the four #FreeSoftware freedoms so they're Free Software as far as I'm concerned (not #copyleft but that's a distinct thing).

CC-BY-NC-SA does have restrictions that mean the four freedoms aren't intact, so it's something else.

The modern webs frontend stacks backbone library #corejs is asking for recognition and a proper future proof funding approach by the companies that build upon it
https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md #webdev

In der neuen Folge sprechen wir u. a. über #corejs und Open Source Finanzierung, die Probleme im #React Ökosystem und widmen uns am Ende "nur einem Film" im Konsum. Immerhin waren wir uns einig, dass Bilbo einer der Guten ist. https://ready-for-review.dev/2023/03/01/rfr042-alle-bose-ausser-bilbo/

오픈소스 라이브러리 개발자의 호소
https://techrecipe.co.kr/posts/50799

#corejs

@binder In this particular case it wasn't quite nearly as much and it was shouldering on a degree dutifulness that was simply self-destructive.

But it wouldn't have gained such a reach (and without other contributors) if corposcum had been forbidden from integrating it in their own tools without contributing back (effectively no one used #CoreJS directly).

Also, #CC and #PublicDomain release tend to be understood as such by those doing them.

L'affaire de #corejs... J'ai du mal à croire que parmi tout le backslash que se prend l'auteur de cette lib énormément utilisée depuis des années, tout ça parce qu'il demande un soutien financier, certains avancent l'argument "c'est un russe. Si vous lui donnez de l'argent, vous financez la guerre !"

Par contre profiter de son travail tout ce temps, ça on s'en foutait tant qu'il ne demandait rien.

Et le bonhomme d'insister : "si vous voulez forker, et maintenir le projet, allez-y, vraiment."

Șeful Core-JS se plânge că open source este defect, nimeni nu va plăti pentru ea

https://rootlinux.ro/seful-core-js-se-plange-ca-open-source-este-defect-nimeni-nu-va-plati-pentru-ea/

#rootlinux #opensource #javascript #corejs

@jollyrogue @benjaminhollon @RL_Dane @cobra @alcinnz @dheadshot Yeah, it does limit your project to single-person or cathedral efforts.

Although for some projects that's acceptable, since that's basically all they have anyway until they burn out like #CoreJS.

I do think businesses should simply adapt to using GPL dependencies & give up on the frankly unhealthy models that depend on the ability to sell & release only proprietary programs.

@syntaxseed
Reads article. Hmm.. "Free open-source software is fundamentally broken." Really?

Checks license.... "MIT license." You see, there is the problem. #FreeSoftware is not broken, the problem is that #CoreJS is NOT free software, it is merely #OpenSource

Now we know why you must #GPL or GTFO. GPL is the only free #SoftwareLicense that protects you from EXACTLY the kind of exploitation that this poor guy has experienced -- his code used on 52% of the top 1000 websites, all that for practically no pay. That is exploitation.

@fsf needs to know about this as an example of why you should not use the MIT license. Not much they can do about it, except maybe try to convince the guy to re-license under the GPL.

The whole #CoreJS to me just sounds like a cautionary tale on using weak licenses.

#GPL or #AGPL would've kept most the corpos away, and selling indulgences/exemptions would've been an adequate funding source.

「 Developers love to use free open-source software - it’s free and works great, they are not interested in that many and many thousands of hours of development, and real people with their own problems and needs are behind it. They consider any mention of this as an invasion of their personal space or even a personal affront. For them, these are just gears that should automatically change without any noise and their participation 」

— zloirock
#corejs #opensource

https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md

companies using foss projects (applications, dependencies etc) should have a budget for donating to developers #corejs #foss

Issues with #FOSS funding models aside, I can't imagine killing someone and maiming another, using scare quotes when calling them "victims", and then writing about it without expressing any sympathy for the girls or their families. Even if I wasn't at fault and believed the punishment was unjust.

Am I the only one bothered by this? #corejs

https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md

If you care about #OpenSource or Internet infrastructure, zloirock (Denis Pushkarev)'s post about #corejs is a must-read:

[So, what's next?](https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md)

[So, what's next discussion](https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/issues/1179)

Background on polyfills, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyfill_(programming)

Disclaimer: zloirock's story seems reasonable and plausible (and sad and crazy-making), but I don't have direct personal knowledge or experience in the matter. Caveat lector.

Hoje li todo o post do desenvolvedor do #corejs e me ocorreu que: as fundações relacionadas com software livre poderiam criar uma força de trabalho para identificar projetos #FOSS que estejam em situações similares e buscar formas de ajudá-los a se tornarem sustentáveis.

Convido todos a ler na íntegra:
https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md

#foss #corejs #osi #fsf #linuxfoundation

Can we just get off #corejs already.

@wujibear #coreJS

Could https://thanks.dev/home @thanks_dev@twitter.com help them?

#OpenSource #sustainability

#opensource #sustainability in a nutshell
https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/blob/master/docs/2023-02-14-so-whats-next.md
#corejs #FOSS #StateOfOpen

On the other hand, it turns out the author of #corejs makes excuses for the invasion of Ukraine 😬