Mostly satisfied of #spectrwm. Seems less buggy than #cwm ... So I think i'm going to keep it for a while.

@array

I have increased the width. Even #cwm let's you increase the border width.

The problem is that I have about 35 years of wetware training that looks for a large difference in the titlebar color/shade, and anything more nuanced than that is very frustrating.

It's infuriating when something as trifling as a shallow sense of aesthetics meddles in areas of usability.

@sotolf @landel @benjaminhollon @pixelherodev

@Sbravadour Scared & confused, good word choice for me too (and a good alt. title for a Led Zeppelin song!). Wish You all the best. I know U are in the UK. My father & uncle both live there, but I cannot travel now. I will be in 🇹🇩 in the summer, we’ll see..

For #LeSabre, it’s #CWM’s Scott fault, as he & Dean always said they’re built as tanks. Yes, but restoring an old #landYacht is an undertaking. Even if mine was in OK shape. Did it for kids.. This is what will remain of me. Cheers!

@thelinuxcast

What about scripting up a little indicator in bash and using a tiny terminal window as an indicator?

That's how I implemented my own i3bar replacement when I was playing with #cwm on #OpenBSD.

I wrote a script that put the xterm window along the bottom of the screen and ran the script within it to generate the "bar" text.

Then I just tweaked the cwm rules to ignore that one window.

Never used qtile, though.

Went back to using #i3wm on #OpenBSD.

#cwm is nice, but I missed having real tiling/tabbing.

Glad I explored it though, and did all the config tweaking I could to make it work for me. Ultimately, it wasn't as good a fit, and that's ok.

At this point in time I've probably invested so much into #shell scripts and #cwm that moving away from it is impossible.

I automated most of my tasks and all is working so well.

Not that I planned to move back to a DE, but sometimes I like to try new things out.

Man, my little #termbar solution in cwm is working so well, I forgot I wasn't running #i3wm for a little while there.

My only real beef with #cwm is that it doesn't raise windows they get focus. You have to $mod-Lclick them. A little annoying, but that does just reinforce my alt-tab addiction, lol

@suprjami

...

On #cwm, alt-tab complements tiling quite well, and if you only have two windows open in a window group (read: workspace), alt tab is a lot faster than i3's $mod-[j;], because you don't have to think about which *direction* in which to go.

I do agree, however, that using alt-tab multiple times instead of organizing windows in more structured ways is kinda dumb

Thanks for the reminder about vim-sneak, though! Need to install that.

@fedops

I thought there was a manpage for it, but I can't seem to find it. I figured I might have been thinking of #cwm, which has a very nice cwmrc manpage.

apropos i3 |grep ^i3 |awk '{print $1}'
i3
i3-config-wizard
i3-dmenu-desktop
i3-dump-log
i3-input
i3-migrate-config-to-v4
i3-msg
i3-nagbar
i3-save-tree
i3-sensible-editor
i3-sensible-pager
i3-sensible-terminal
i3bar
i3lock
i3status

@tulpa

I kinda wish skippy worked better with cwm. It's been very flaky the times I tried it.

If you're not familiar with it, it's a program that implements a Mac OS X Exposé-like feature where it presents all windows arranged so they don't overlap when you hit a hotkey.

skippy-xd works pretty well in Linux, but I wasn't able to get skippy (in #OpenBSD ports) working in a stable manner.

If I spend more time in #cwm, I might just try compiling skippy-xd from source.

@tulpa

Another thing I miss in #cwm is #i3wm's modality. It really helps cut down on keybind clutter when you can switch modes and re-use the same keybinds (like the default resize and shutdown/reboot/logout menu modes, but you can implement your own very easily)

@benjaminhollon

Yes, $mod-b by default. I do kinda use that like alt-tab at times. It's also great for flitting between monitors (if you have them set up as independent workspaces).

The funny thing is that I really miss tab organization when I'm in #cwm, and alt-tab when I'm in #i3wm.

...

Realizing I'm suddenly *very* spoiled by #cwm's alt-tab function. i3 feels a little weird to me now (strictly in that regard)

Just noticed something interesting about #OpenBSD's #cwm:

As you alt-tab between windows, it snaps the mouse cursor back to where it was in that window before you switched away.

It basically emulates the idea that each window has its own mouse cursor, which is only visible when the window is active.

Not earth-shattering, but kinda cool! :)

Slight confusion with #OpenBSD's #cwm:

It seems that as soon as a window snaps to a screen edge (whether it was moved by the mouse or a keybind), it can no longer be moved out of that corner or edge with a keybind, but only with the mouse. (Windows snapped against screen edges but not corners can be moved along the edge via keybind until it hits a corner, at which point it's completely stuck).

I'm... confuzzled by this behavior.

I wish there was a way in #KDE #Plasma to set a keybind to quickly snap a window to one of the four corners (+ four edges as a bonus) of the screen *without* resizing it. So, not quite tiling, but quick window management.

It's something I recently discovered in #cwm, and I really like it.

Maybe I'll compensate by making the screen edge snap zone yuuuuge. It's 10px now, 20 might be better. :)

@dotpk

Oh, I've done that, too.

But coming from traditional WMs, resizing by grabbing the window corner while holding Super feels... super. 😅

The main thing I'm missing from #i3wm is modes: I've got a resize mode, a clipboard operations mode, a gaps setting mode, and a logout/shutdown/suspend/etc. mode

Seems #cwm doesn even let you change variables like the gaps on the fly (or with hotkeys)

Not complaining, it's just different.

@tulpa

One minor annoyance with #cwm:
You can only resize windows from the bottom right. Even though you're using a hotkey to do it. If you grab the window from the top left, hold down your hotkey (for me, just Super), then click the mouse, it instantly teleports to the bottom right of the window.

Niggle*. :P

*Yes, that means "a minor detail or gripe." Not any relation to that OTHER word, which I have no commerce with, whatsoever.

#OpenBSD

#LossyPNG #OpenBSD #CWM

After doing *super* extensive tweaking to the termbar script, I ended up just writing a new script that took the output of my obsdstatus* script and added the cwm window group ("desktop") info to the beginning.

So I'm using the same idea of having an xterm window that the wm ignores as the "bar," but I'm doing my own data source (largely from i3status).

...

Gotta get to bed, but I just wanted to share my #OpenBSD / #cwm / custom #TermBar setup. SCHWEET! :D