@Daojoan That's part of the funny thing about using #darknets and #AnonymizingNetworks.

You'd think that the major focus on anonymity & privacy would detract from the intimacy or real-ness, but turns out it's closer to the old net and so the opposite happens.

@strypey @toolbear @latelesley @raineer @socketwench Not exactly, instance/server-centrism is embedded pretty deeply in #ActivityPub's core, and that assumption on the #clearnet has some immediate monetary consequences that #p2p programs with #gossip-spreading & first-class support for relays and diverse #networking & messaging transports (#darknets, overlays, #AsynchronousNetworking, etc) don't.

Both relays and p2p can be hacked on to some degree... but the seams are very obvious & fragile.

@AdrianVolt @mcc I'm actually hoping that massive corposcum's willful #enshittification alongside the impracticality of smaller corporate hosting will lead to mass abandon of the #clearnet for #FreeSoftware services on the various #darknets and #AnonymizingNetworks that can mitigate that liability.

If we're to give up on realism, then I would also hope it brings back the #P2P-first approach into the fore.

#Privacy #Anonymity #Anonymous #Networking #SelfHosting #darknet

@iampytest1 @dalias @campuscodi So basically this is the same old "don't expose #darknet servers to the #clearnet" thing?

I'd be wary of even reusing the same server across different #darknets, and spinning up a VM for each is cheap-enough to do with little-enough hassle there's really no good reason not to do it.

#Anonymization #DeAnonymization

@Elizafox@treehouse.system Flee the #clearnet into #darknets and they can get fucked forever?

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@nytpu It's worth noting that a better option yet than the private sites is to use #P2P #AnonymizationNetworks and #darknets, particularly #mixnet implementations.

They tend to be gratis, #FreeSoftware and better at complicating traffic & timing analysis.

#Darknet #AnonymousNetwork #Anonymity

@jz That hydra approach has gotten fairly popular lately on the various #darknets, I think applying it to the #clearnet might be a lot more expensive though.

It's not novel to do so per se, #C2 servers have done so for a while now, but for wide relatively-public use is less common.

#darknet

@qurlyjoe I find that most fields tend to be fractally complicated, it only becomes obvious on looking closer.

#I2P, #mixnets and #darknets (the term became popular with tourist grifters lately too, but ignore those fools) are very much on the anonymity & privacy end of that with considerable tradeoffs in achieving those goals.

@dmoonfire @noracodes It's one of the issues that annoy me with most new attempts at #AnonymizationNetworks or #Darknets, most of them tie themselves to inherently money-based mechanics that are fundamentally limiting and cripple their potential.

Some of them actually do have good ideas that aren't basically just rewriting #I2P or #Freenet, but they immediately go and destroy any potential for their ideas to work outside of crypto scams.

@jeffcliff It's been pretty clear to me that the web as it exists will not be an option in Canada for that much longer as our authorities are incapable of not giving in to their spy fetish.

Most #Darknets and #Mixnets we have are not really ready to take up the slack either as they generally don't have a design that accounts for global observers.

@Canuck_Finley Or at least the end of the #Clearnet #web. #Darknets basically mandatory in #Canada from that point on.

Was digging through an old hard-drive, and found an article that @KevinCarson1 wrote for the The #Bitcoin Sun in 2011. How he starts off:

"#NealStephenson's "#TheDiamondAge" was set some years after encrypted currencies and e-commerce removed most economic transactions into #darknets beyond the government's capability of monitoring and regulating, and thus caused tax bases around the world to implode. This was followed, in short order, by the collapse of most nation-states."