I am a happy #admin. A few new people have joined my #server and it's starting to feel like a great #community now.

I spent part of my morning reviewing the FediBlock posts and happily giggled when a few mentions were already in my #defederation list.

This is what #SocialMedia should be about.

#Defederation is not a "nuclear option ". It's #Fediverse working as intended.

#fediblock #defederation

Am I the only person who objects to the idea of fediblock or defederation ?

what if I want to see many of the posts on a blocked instance ?

why should some fraction of sh*tty posts mean that I can't see what I want ?

Isn't there some alternative thing, that lets users decide for themseleves what they want to see ?

#Defederation is going to wind up being the death of Mastodon. It's getting thrown around too easily and used way too much, leave it up to individual users to block the accounts, but just cutting off a whole instance from the userbase is just even more going to fit into the whole mastodon is hard narrative. Going to have to move around to, or have multiple accounts where a specific instance isn't defederated? Gonna kill it. The power went right to some peoples heads.

#mastodon #fediverse

Unfettered and impulsive #defederation is an existential threat to Mastodon.

One thing that was really great on #masto and then #pixelfed was the ability to use the browser.

As we're seeing new social media contenders(threads) illustrate, companies want you to use the app, not a browser. Far more data is available to them to exploit.

As we move forward with #defederation #FOSS #adfree and #privacy I'd like to remind developers that they don't need to compete with "apps." We should be sharing the message about their faults.

Upthread are polls on other demographic factors (gender, gender history, white vs. not white, black vs. not black) and attitudes toward Vanta Black's Anti-Meta Pact.

Here's the last in the set of race-related polls:

Poll 7: How do you feel toward the Anti-Meta Pact, and what best describes your racial / ethnic heritage?

#Facebook #federation #defederation

(boosts welcome)

Posting the white / not white poll now, will add the others later.

Poll 5: How do you feel toward the Anti-Meta Pact, and what best describes your race?

#Facebook #federation #defederation

(boosts welcome)

Ok, next set of polls: race and attitudes toward Vanta Black's Anti-Meta Pact.

I only have 4 choices per poll to play with, so I'm going to do three polls: white vs. not white and black vs. not black. I will also do indigenous vs. not indigenous (indigenous isn't really a race, but is sufficiently closely related to feel like it belongs in the same set).

There are of course tons more races, but three polls already feels like a lot.

#Facebook #federation #defederation #AntiMetaPact

It's been strange watching the gender poll (see upthread) evolve. There was initially a pretty clear skew of male responses being more favorable toward the Anti-Meta Pact than non-male responses, but sometime around 60 responses that reversed.

I wonder whether this is just happenstance or if there really is a pattern where the gender skew is reversed for people closer to me in the network than people further from me.

#Facebook #federation #defederation

Again, doing the best I can with just 4 poll options...

Poll 4: How do you feel toward the Anti-Meta Pact, and what best describes your gender history?

#Facebook #federation #defederation

(boosts welcome)

For anyone who hasn't read about it yet, the Anti-Meta Pact is an agreement authored by Vanta Black on the beach.city instance, which many instances have been signing, promising *not* to federate with any Fediverse instances hosted by Meta / Facebook. (see https://fedipact.online/)

Doing the best I can with the 4 options I'm permitted...

Poll 3: How do you feel toward the Anti-Meta Pact, and what best describes your gender?

#Facebook #federation #defederation

(boosts welcome)

@mekkaokereke @J12t @ricmac @jdp23

Although I am strongly in favor of #defederation from #Facebook / #ThreadsDotNet / Meta, I feel less confident about what kinds of claims we can make about safety and harassment. My friend @harris has made some interesting points about #inclusion and the fact that if we *could* federate with Meta without problems, we'd be able elevate the voices of a lot more minorities than we do now.

@chrispomeroyhale

...I think I disagree with the framing. I don't think decisions about #federation with #Facebook / Meta / Threads.net are about the choice to interact with outsiders.

If we stick with an international relations metaphor, I think a more apt metaphor might be trade agreements. The question of whether to engage in commerce with countries that practice state violence against their citizens is different from the question of whether to engage with those citizens.

#defederation

@chrispomeroyhale

Ok, having reread...

I guess what I'd say is that I my bias is that interacting with outsiders is almost always a *good* thing. So with the rhetorical framing that you use, I would have a hard time arguing against being as inclusive as possible.

#defederation

However...

@chrispomeroyhale

I assume you'd agree that it's would be pretty silly to ask "why would you want to have a private chatroom when you could broadcast all of your conversations to the entire internet. Let's say that chatroom is a country..."

#defederation

@chrispomeroyhale

Social.coop isn't a country. It's a platform. Switching platforms is *much* less costly than immigration to another country. Also, having a presence on more than one platform is much less costly than dual citizenship between two countries.

#defederation

This was such a great article by @malwaretech about a major way Mastodon is so much different from everything else that not enough people bring up. Hint: it has to do with:

1. Not being an ad-driven experience
2. How moderation works in the Fediverse

A thoughtful read and a reminder that, largely, I think we’re building a pretty great culture here.

https://escapingtech.com/tech/opinions/i-was-wrong-about-mastodon-moderation.html

#Mastodon #Moderation #Federation #DeFederation #AdFree

This would make individual user choice to federate with an instance known to practice automatic data harvesting opt-in rather than opt-out. I think this is an important distinction, because it seems like it's easier for servers to defederate with domains that aren't online yet but not easy for users.

#defederation #Facebook #ThreadsDotNet

Hmmm. So, I wonder if I've been defederated from universeodon completely? Or just the data frivolous admin... Would be funny to be defederated from 17k users because their admin is being frivolous with their data security🤣. Anyone on that site see this?

#Fediverse #Mastodon #federation #federated #defederation