In tech the #geekproblem has pushed emancipation into darkness. The #encryptionists have dominated alt-tech and the #dotcons of the #mainstreaming path, both are born of this world view and the socialisation that keeps it from sight.

@stefan it's not, but people keep pushing it in... #diaspora is from the #encryptionists agenda where the #Fediverse is #4opens

Mess and composting comes to mind.

#bluesky #Nostr #activertypub

They all share #4opens #openweb tech, so this is a win.

Where they differ is in the "culture" they come from and push.

#bluesky comes from surveillance capitalism, it's from the #dotcons and has meany of the same assumptions, just "better".

#Nostr comes from the #encryptionists and #bitcoin bro crew and suffers from being from this mess.

#activertypub is #openweb native and comes from the #4opens traditions the whole software world is actually built on.

#KISS

#bluesky #Nostr #activertypub

The all share #4opens #openweb tech, so this is a win.

Where they differer is in the "culture" they come from and push.

#bluesky comes from surveillance capitalism, it's from the #dotcons and has meany of the same assumptions, just "better".

#Nostr comes from the #encryptionists and #bitcoin bro crew and suffers from being from this mess.

#activertypub is #openweb native and comes from the #4opens traditions the whole softwear world is actually based on.

@Hamishcampbell Cool. I assume you refer to this then:

> The #encryptionists hashtag critiques the dominant belief among some geeks that all solutions need more encryption, which can lead to a desire for total control and artificial scarcity

However, the total control when comparing AP and Nostr lies with the server admin in the former case and the user in the latter case. With AT/BlueSky falling in the middle by offering both DIDs (but only a demo version of it atm) and server federation.

@rabble one of the problems you guys have is the whole #BITCOIN think is poison for a lot of people, this will limit the #openweb growth and push the project into the #encryptionists paths. You need to keep the bridge in place to the #Fediverse, so these two paths can keep communicating, with this, if mastodon keeps going down the #NGO path some people will jump ship over this bridge. Or the other way :)

The #geekproblem hashtag draws attention to the cultural movement of geeks, who can become blinded by their own technical knowledge and fail to consider the broader social implications of their work (#techshit). The #encryptionists hashtag critiques the dominant belief among some geeks that all solutions need more encryption, which can lead to a desire for total control and artificial scarcity.

https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzd3cxyerxd3h8qerwwfcqyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcpremhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnhd9ex2erwv46zu6ns9upzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqvzqqqr4gugw3jal The delusional #encryptionists are still pushing the mess. It's not that they are wrong, it's that they are monsters. We need a value judgment, what is a monsters mess and what is a humane path for us to take #4opens

The #OMN is protocol agnostic, data is just data, this video is a protocol/apps coming from the post #encryptionists crew. They are likely to just make a mess, this is the normal outcome. But the is interesting talking here, to learn from
Rabble_Nostrica_Talk
https://iframe.mediadelivery.net/play/107596/a126b554-551f-42dc-a992-0b515883e479

#encryptionists prioritize the use of encryption, viewing it as a way to protect privacy and security online.

The problem is that they prioritize encryption over important principles such as trust, transparency, and collaboration. These are essential for a progressive society, the idea of giving up control and building trust among groups.

This issue is then embedded in the code and becomes a problem when it leads to the creation of technology that undermines trust and cooperation.

The #hashtags #fahernista, #openweb, #dotcons, #4opens, #geekproblem, #techcurn, #nothingnew, #techshit and #encryptionists, all embody a similar story and world-view, which is the critique of the negative impact of technology and its development on society. They all express a concern that the #mainstreaming current state of technology is not aligned with the values of fairness, openness, and sustainability, and that it is being driven by the profit motives.

The UK #Indymedia project's internal conflicts caused the project to divide into three main factions: the #encryptionists, who were concerned about privacy and security issues and resisted the use of aggregation and RSS; the #fashernistas, who attempted to compromise by controlling their own unique, non-comparable #RSS format; and the openweb faction, which was based on the original principles of the project but was largely ignored and marginalized.

#Web03 was a waste of space, focus and money by the #Encryptionists who in bed with the scammers produced meany still born tech children in the last 10 years.

#Encryptionists in tech refer to individuals and organizations who blindly support the use of encryption in technology and communication. Encryption is a method of encoding information so that it can only be accessed by those with the proper decryption key. #Encryptionists argue that encryption is essential for protecting privacy and security in the digital age, as it helps prevent unauthorized access to sensitive information.

@happyborg @davew
lifting the lid, Safe Network looks more like #encryptionists crap than anything useful, hummm more to compost.

#Blockchain technology is often touted as a solution for a wide range of problems, but in reality, it is not the best fit for the issue at hand. The #encryptionists, may promote the use of blockchain for various problems without understanding the social implications and limitations of the technology. This can lead to a lack of practicality and efficacy in the solutions proposed.

The #hashtags #fahernista, #openweb, #dotcons, #4opens, #geekproblem, #techcurn, #nothingnew, #techshit and #encryptionists, all embody a similar story and world-view, which is the critique of the negative impact of technology and its development on society. They all express a concern that the #mainstreaming current state of technology is not aligned with the values of fairness, openness, and sustainability, and that it is being driven by the profit motives.

#encryptionists prioritize the use of encryption, viewing it as a way to protect privacy and security online.

The problem is that they prioritize encryption over important principles such as trust, transparency, and collaboration. These are essential for a progressive society, the idea of giving up control and building trust among groups.

This issue is then embedded in the code and becomes a problem when it leads to the creation of technology that undermines trust and cooperation.

@fj yes, let's reboot the #openweb and clearly move away from more of the same #closedweb mess that the #encryptionists have been pushing the last few years.

@bhaugen @theblockchainsocialist @dajb yes it's good for a minority of #openweb use. The #encryptionists push this mess over way too much, it's a balance, the #openweb is fundamentally "post scarcity" #4opens project. Thus there is a very limited space for artificial "scarcity" that way too much of this #techshit pushes.

Composting comes to mind.