@sqrtminusone @thelegendlinux And I think it's a good thing #doomemacs works so well without any work. I wouldn't have become an #emacs user without the preconfigured #evilmode setup in #spacemacs. I would have fixed my dll-hell broken vim installation instead. Maybe I'll create my own config from scratch in time, but I really like that someone had given me sensible defaults and chosen nice packages to get me started.

Managed to turn evil mode off in my Room Emacs config, but found that it would often "turn itself back on". Possible bug, or a feature to turn more people over to Evil mode.

So I've decided I'll give it a proper go and try the evil-tutor package and give it a fair shot.

#doomEmacs
#emacs
#evilMode

Spent the weekend reviewing articles and videos from @daviwil and decided I'm going to try Doom Emacs. Got the basic set up working before end of work, tomorrow I'll have a proper go. Just one thing... How do I turn off evil key bindings?
#emacs
#doomEmacs
#evilMode

@smeikx on Android, the Termux app adds a row on top of the system keyboard with ctrl, esc, etc. I'm using #Emacs w/ #EvilMode for notes there with no problems.

@brodriguesco I've seen quite a lot of people in here moving from #Vim/#NVim to #Emacs with #EvilMode.
And I thinks it's quite alright if it better suits their needs.

But completely getting rid of #ModalEditing? Why would anyone do such a thing?

Welp, I've switched back to #EvilMode in #Emacs (from #meow).

I think that Meow does several very cool things, and I miss Evil not having them. It's also faster and more idiomatic to the Emacs Way.

しかし、
Evil has a few advantages (for the way I use it):
- ESC and <escape> are magically the same key with no modifier nonsense
- Ex search-and-replace (:%s/old/new/g) is faster, simpler, more versatile, than meow's multi cursor Macros (if less cool)
- when evil does the unexpected, it's what vim would do. When meow does the unexpected, it breaks the modal abstraction.

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So, here's what I want (and may scrape together sooner or later): either

- meow-keypad-mode as a standalone package for SPC bindings. This would keep me on evil.

- evil-esc-mode as a standalone package for fixing the DAMN STUPID ESC KEY I AM IRRATIONALLY ANGRY ABOUT, and also a way to completely/mostly disable meow in any given individual buffer. This would keep me on meow.

I just spent a week using #meow instead of #EvilMode in #Emacs.

Now coming back to evil, scrolling seems painfully slow. The editing grammar feels clunky.

I thought I would miss the Ex command line, but I really didn't notice it at all.

More thoughts possibly coming soon...

@Friction #evilmode why not both?

#emacs #meow modal-editing users who switched from #EvilMode:

What has your experience been like? Would you recommend it for a heavy evil/vim user?

@matt we're cool I use #EvilMode and only fly the :anarchistflag:

#introduction eleph.social #admin. Happily married since 2017. Electrical Technology (Construction) AAS, #ComputerScience BS. #Dogs saved my life. I'm #queer and #NeuroSpicy. I like #FOSS, #Emacs, #Spacemacs, #EvilMode, #OrgMode, #PKM, #Rust, #Horror, #CrustPunk, #RABM, #Cannabis, #Guitars, #Mathematics, #Electronics, #RetroComputing, #Android, #Psilocybin. Want #solarpunk #homesteading but have limited energy cuz chronic #depression. #Nihilism but #Radical #compassion. #Possums! #Pacifism

@ricard @dekkzz76 tho some of us are wandering satanists. #orgroam #evilmode

@philipabbyad I started by learning #vim and eventually switched to #emacs ( #spacemacs ) with #evilmode and thus vim keybindings inside emacs. I found it gives me the best of two worlds.

Does anybody know about a good multiple-cursors tutorial? Ideally, using #evilmode and #spacemacs
Too often I find myself thinking 'I don't want to look that up right now, let me just do it by hand.' It's time to learn it once and for all!

#emacs #learnemacs
:emacs:

@evan After using regular #emacs keybindings since the late eighties, I switched to #evilmode a few years back, and really like having the best if both worlds.

Hey #Elisp and #EvilMode wizards, anybody know a way to save the previous visual selection when visual selections in a function? `save-mark-and-excursion` doesn't seem to work.

@av6
> Best change in :neovim: #neovim over :vim: #vim?
>
> nnoremap Y y$ by default :ablobcathappypaws:

This seems a *bit* like damning with faint praise. I mean, I'm thinking back to the pre-Vim-8 days, when the best change was something like "doesn't block the main thread for tasks that should run asynchronously"

(But then, I haven't really been following vim/neovim recently – I've been a satisfied #evilmode user for a few years now)

@av6
> Best change in :neovim: #neovim over :vim: #vim?
>
> nnoremap Y y$ by default :ablobcathappypaws:

This seems a *bit* like damning with faint praise. I mean, I'm thinking back to the pre-Vim-8 days, when the best change was something like "doesn't block the main thread for tasks that should run asynchronously"

(But then, I haven't really been following vim/neovim recently – I've been a satisfied #evilmode user for a few years now)

A main drawback of #vim insert mode is the lack of going backwards and forwards one character without arrow keys,
#emacs's C-f and C-b are a blessing.

#vim just try it

inoremap <C-f> <Right>
inoremap <C-b> <Left>

#EvilMode #TryEmacs

Also checking out #emacs mastodon.el... I'm not *entirely* sure I like it. Doesn't exactly play nice with #evilmode.

I might just keep taking advantage of #elfeed... Mastodon does provide a *lot* of RSS feeds, after all.