@marick @rgb There is also a Matrix chat channel with most of the FedWiki regulars. #fedwiki:matrix.org

For librarians/archivists..
> The approach chosen [to archiving] might depend on the number of things that might usefully be held close at hand. Wiki pages are comfortable with maybe 100s of things. Our property graph extends this to 1000s of things. Our newest indexing methods might extend our working reach to 10,000s of things without sacrificing its feeling of being roomy and accomodating.

@k9ox #wiki #fedwiki #archiving

@smallcircles
Referring back to https://discuss.coding.social/t/semmy-social-knowledge-fabrics/76

. . why not write in #fedwiki and use Mastodon to publish links to pages written? Create a plugin even?

What wiki does NOT do, very deliberately, is PUSH to anybody's feed. You can read somebody's 'feed' (recent changes in any wiki known to you or forked by you). And wiki's tacit 'awareness engine' can show what folks in your (chosen) neighborhood have made.

This is resonant with undiscoverability in #earthstar
@bhaugen @gwil @paul90

@nicol @smallcircles @steve @deadsuperhero @neil

That's exactly it. The image only shows sharing notes privately with Friends, but there'll also be reblogging à la Tumblr, and co-editing à la #FedWiki.

All they told me was that "#Solid wasn't ready" (but that was 2y ago) & Inrupt's focus was corporate and government.

@cagrimmett

The final stage of the content pipeline is a public-facing edge (ie, website). In my case that's a Hub (see mine: https://myhub.ai/@mathewlowry/), but it could be a blog, newsletter site, digital garden, etc.

The second image shows how this #Tool4Thought networked a little more deeply. Apart from the Priority Sources you Follow, you also have Followers (#activitypub, RSS, newsletter...) and Friends, with whom you collaborate on otherwise private content in your Library (cf #fedwiki).

@humanetech
I'm up for spending a little time comparing the approaches to federating, of #activitypub and #fedwiki, as regards wikis. With folks who know the former. Any takers? The community of the former is larger and protocols more explicit.

The rationales differ but might be consistent? The libre aesthetics of the latter are maybe more creative-collaborative-collectivist, less dogmatic-libertarian-'Stallmanist'? Oops.
@bhaugen @bob @bonfire @yala

@flancian So ... how *is* it supposed to work? Where is it documented?

The real value of the original wiki was that everyone could contribute, then we could reach consensus (or consensus on a number of positions), then those agreed positions could be extracted into their own pages as documents rather than discussions.

Can one do that in the #fedwiki?

If not ... what is federation doing?

@vera @bhaugen

@flancian ... subsequently been firstly made static, and then subsequently moved over into the #fedwiki idea.

(This discussion has been subsumed elsewhere ... so here is a chart of (most of) the discussion so far:

https://www.solipsys.co.uk/Chartodon/107231623382481513.svg )

2/2

@bhaugen @mike_hales

@vera I'm not sure I can explain any more clearly. Supposedly there are multiple sites that are somehow federated, and yet when I go to a #fedwiki all I get is that site's content. How is this federated?

How can different sites converge to a consensus? How is this different from simply having one's own isolated wiki?

@bhaugen @flancian

@flancian There's something I really don't get about the #fedwiki -verse. I get the idea of federation, and wrote a thing[0] that other people have said they found helpful in getting a foothold in the idea. But I just don't get what's going on with #fedwiki

Maybe I need to set one up and start playing, but without having an overview of what's going on I'll just be flailing about, and I don't have time for that.

[0] https://www.solipsys.co.uk/new/ThinkingAboutMastodon.html?UK06MN

@bhaugen @vera

@ColinTheMathmo
I also participated in the C2 wiki fairly early on, and have also not yet tried #fedwiki , but @mike_hales loves it. Mike, did you participate in the C2 wiki?

There seems to be more engagement in developing the code by collaborative devs in Fedwiki than C2 ever had. But the C2 wiki had gardeners, which was an interesting concept that could be re-imagined for the #fediverse as well as Fedwiki...altho the original idea doesn't fit, it was for a centralized wiki.

@flancian

@ColinTheMathmo
I also participated in the C2 wiki fairly early on, and have also not yet tried #fedwiki , but @mike_hales loves it. Mike, did you participate in the C2 wiki?

There seems to be more engagement in developing the code by collaborative devs in Fedwiki than C2 ever had. But the C2 wiki had gardeners, which was an interesting concept that could be re-imagined for the #fediverse as well as Fedwiki...altho the original idea doesn't fit, it was for a centralized wiki.

@flancian

@bhaugen I've tried on multiple occasions and just cant work out what's going on, how to use it, how to contribute, how to collaborate, or anything. I find the interface opaque, and it feels like it's a read-only.

I know that whatever follows the C2 wiki has to be different and possibly more complicated in some way(s), and maybe the #fedwiki is the right balance, but I've had trouble getting engaged.

@flancian

@ColinTheMathmo

Have you participated in #fedwiki ?

@flancian

@ColinTheMathmo

Have you participated in #fedwiki ?

@flancian

I've known about fedwiki for a good amount of those 10 years but haven't really sat down & tried using it myself. Something about the use of colored boxes in the UI really threw me.

Recently I've been tuning in to their conversations in #fedwiki:matrix.org and was digging around in some of the old videos looking for a recording of a recent meeting about integrating Observable.

@edsu
Tech queries can be asked of the wizards who hang out in the federated wiki discussion space
#fedwiki:matrix.org
Me, I wouldn't know a git from a cricket bat

@datatitian
D'you know Ward Cunningham, inventor of wiki and federated wiki? I think you should talk. Ward is chasing AR as a means of visualising and handling federations of complex scraped data. Fedwiki was invented to federate both coproducing humans and bundles of data. Having data in the immers.space as well as avatars would make a huge difference.
You could chat w Ward in the fedwiki matrix room
#fedwiki:matrix.org
I posted a note there.
@disco_coop @camille @mattcropp @Matt_Noyes

#fedwiki How does the converging of ‘the chorus of voices’ work? Here are tips
http://pods.wiki.org/all-about-pods.html

Just found my way into Federated Wiki - hadn't realised that it was what I've been looking for, for a couple of years, to handle and share evolving knowledges. Indeed, I've been looking for it since I first fell in love - with Hypercard, 30 years ago. Writing and sharing WYSIWYG hypertext, in Markdown - yay!

Anyone here seriously into (using) #fedwiki? I'm on a learning curve and need to discover where geeks hang out. I hope it's not github. Or google hangouts