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Thomas logion 51
His Disciples said to him: what? day the Repose of they who are dead will come to be and what? day the new World is coming;
he said to them: that one you look outward toward her, did she come; Rather yourselves you know her not.
Most translations don't distinguish between the feminine Repose and the masculine World: the former has come for the disciples indeed already, and the latter never will, of course
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a movement it is, there is not a Repose.
Meaning
Here it is that we encounter 'the chosen', the definite article followed by the noun: and do check the Translation or Commentary in order to verify the difference.
Of course we are the chosen of the father; the father has come from the light and we have come from the father, we are Ego and Self, created by ourself (sic).
And Repose? It is of the Dead - we must continue moving in order to get out, to be free
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Thomas logion 49
IS said: some Fortunates are the Single Ones and who have chosen; you will fall to the reign of king - yourselves some from her Once more you will go to the place there.
It is absolutely essential to compare this logion and the next for the more than most pivotal difference between having chosen and being chosen, something that is harmonised / falsified by all Christian translators:
ⲉⲧ ⲥⲟⲧⲡ - they-who have-chosen, this is a verbal phrase
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Thomas logion 48
IS said: should two make be Peace with each other in this single house, they will say it to the mountain: turn outward and he will turn.
Make peace: you with the you's, Ego with Self, slaveowner with slave. The single house is a clear hint at your duality, and the mountain essential: it is the mountain of logion 32, and the most important part of the foundation of the City.
'Turn outward': ⲡⲱⲱⲛⲉ (ⲉⲃⲟⲗ), https://coptic-dictionary.org/entry.cgi?tla=C2839
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Thomas logion 47
IS said: there is not strength of a human to be mounted on two horses and to stretch two bows and there is not strength of a slave to serve two slaveowners, Or he will make be Honour the one and the other one he will make be "Hubrize" him;
not usually a human drinks old wine and within the hour he Desires to drink new wine, and not usually they cast new wine to old Wineskin in order that they will not split;
(CONTINUED)
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Thomas logion 46
IS said: starting from Adam toward Johannes the Immerser, in the births of the women there is not he who exalted to Johannes the Immerser So that his eyes will not break.
I said it However: he who will come to be in you he been made little person he will know the reign of king and he will be high to Johannes.
The key to Thomas inventing his characters: what then does "James the Immerser" point to?
To the Tanakh, Book of Chronicles
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Thomas logion 45
IS said not usually they collect grape from Acacia nilotica Nor not usually they gather fig from "caltrop": not usually they give Fruit Indeed.
A Good human habitually resembles a Good one from his treasure, a Bad human habitually resembles some Wicked things from his treasure, which wicked, which in his heart/mind; and he says some Wicked things outward.
Indeed in the greater-part of the heart/mind habitually he produces some Wicked things.
Logion 43 closes the set of dialogue, with the disciples inquiring after the nature of IS, who lashes out: "You are identical to those damn Judeans who worship their god in words yet not in deeds, and fail to see the forest through the trees of what their own deeds in actuality are comprised of"
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#GospelOfThomas #Summary 21-43
Logion 21 assigns the Seeker his new role: the man who steals. Objective? To take away his housegear from the slaveowner in order to upset "his house of his kingdom": the mental models / perception of 'kingdom' - for both of them
Logion 22 points to infants - never mere children as in the NT - suckling milk, 0-2 years, to possess the right state of mind. All enters our head where we label and divide it all: male / female, inside / outside, etc
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Thomas logion 44
IS said: he who will say one to the father they will dismiss him, and he who will say one to the child they will dismiss him.
He who will say one However to the Spirit who is pure they will dismiss him not Nor in the earth Nor in the heaven.
"To say one" is the Coptic way of expressing 'blaspheme' - and the normalised translation dictates 'dismiss': ⲕⲱ (ⲉⲃⲟⲗ) occurs in logion 21, 44, 52
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@b_hawk logion 61 of Thomas clearly discloses that we'll never get rid of the Ego and Self: we can 'scatter' them at best, and indeed when we're 'deserted' by them we will be full of light:
ϣⲱϣ, https://coptic-dictionary.org/entry.cgi?tla=C6172
ϣⲱϥ, https://coptic-dictionary.org/entry.cgi?tla=C6189
The Ego may think he's your enemy (logion 57) but you can't reciprocate that feeling: love him like your brother (logion 25), the mirror image of you that you see when you look into the pupil of your eye: twin
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Thomas logion 43
His Disciples said to him: you who? you say these ones to us.
In these; I say them to you(PL) and you(PL) understand not: myself who?
Rather yourselves you came to be in the manner of those Judeans: they love the tree, they hate his Fruit and they love the Fruit, they hate the tree.
After the previous triplet, the disciples respond: "who are you to tell these to us?!"
"In these" is the primary response;
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20 logia to go out here, until I reach the end of my current #GospelOfThomas #Commentary - the latest publication discloses up to logion 55 and is available at
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I aim to publish it in full in 2025, and am afraid that it will contain over 1,000 pages - yet it already contains chapters 'Meaning' and 'Relation to previous logia' that should enable one to get the gist in a matter of hours
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Thomas logion 42
IS said: come to be in case you(PL) make be Lead astray.
ⲡⲁⲣⲁⲅⲉ is the verb, παράγω in Greek: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0058%3Aentry%3Dpara%2Fgw
To lead by, to lead aside (or mislead), to bring forward, to pass by. The core meaning is to take a different route from the main route, not with the goal to take a shortcut, but with the goal to cut short (sic), to intervene, to drive a different outcome, to alter the course of things.
It's the same word as in logion 11
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Thomas logion 41
IS said: he who has in his hand, they will give to him and he who has not, the other young-thing which he has they will carry him from the hand of him.
The normalised translation demonstrates 'young' to be the only correct translation, as it is used for (little) young children:
ϣⲏⲙ young Adjective 4, 21, 37
ϣⲏⲙ young-thing Noun 41 ϣⲏⲛ
'Little':
ⲕⲟⲩⲓ little Adjective 4, 8, 37, 65, 96
ⲕⲟⲩⲓ little-person Noun masculine 22, 46
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Thomas logion 40
IS said a vine of grape she was planted within the part of outside of the father and not made strong; she will be plucked out at her root and destroyed.
Blatantly obvious, what is outside the father has no future; it is weak.
ⲡⲱⲣⲕ occurs uniquely here, 'pluck out, root out', and Westendorf 151, Vicychl 163 and Cherix 38a have the additional meaning of 'divide, separate'
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Thomas logion 39
IS said: the Pharisees with the Scribes, they took the keys of the Knowledge, they hid them; Nor did they go inward and they who desire to go inward they did not permit them.
Yourselves However come to be Prudent ones in the manner of the serpents and Pure ones in the manner of the doves.
Do note that the Pharisees nor the Scribes play any religious role although they do form "a management layer" that blocks access to Knowledge (#Gnosis)
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Thomas logion 38
IS said: many occasions did you make be Desire to hear these words, these ones that I say to you; and you have not another one to hear them from the hand of him.
There are some days that will come to be and you seek after me: you will fall not to me.
Desire: ἐπιθυμέω, 'to set one's heart upon a thing, lust after, long for, covet, desire' - Thomas describes the desperate disciples' behaviour very well
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