@skepticism For those without Apple News, here are details that will, at least, help you track down the interviewees. They have their own podcast. - "In this episode, Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu talks with Aubrey Gordon and Michael Hobbes, hosts of the Maintenance Phase podcast, about how to outsmart the wellness industry, spot junk health science, and find information that will actually help you live healthier." #WellnessIndustry #JunkHealthScience #MaintenancePhase