Hello les (neo)vimistes ou les autres développeurs intrigués par les éditeurs modaux.

Sur Paris le 20 septembre aura lieu un #TupperVim. Toutes les infos sont sur https://tuppervim.org/ mais en résumé: Mercredi 20 septembre de 19h30 à 22h dans les locaux de cashbee au 4 rue Thorel et inscription sur https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/95Cf7yZ4QahFl8wN6b24

Pour les curieux, voir ça comme un apéro autour de l'éditeur.
C'est super sympa, ça fait progresser et/ou rencontrer des gens !

#Vim #NVim #Neovim #Helix #Kakoune #Emacs

@mrmattburgess the discussion on "do one thing and do it well" in relation to Obsidian gives me some analogue patterns to the discussion in this article about "plugins versus composition" in #Neovim compared to #Kakoune.

https://phaazon.net/blog/more-hindsight-vim-helix-kakoune

As a daily driver #KDE #Kate (with its variations: KWrite, GhostWriter, …) will most likely continue to be my main #TextEditor of choice. (The #Marksman LSP makes it very close to something like #Zettlr and #ObsidianMD)

In the console though, I’m conflicted. #Vi is ubiquitous, so knowing its basics is basically a survival skill. That said, I **really** like how Helix’ command workflow (borrowed from #Kakoune) is visual selection ↦ action (Vi is action ↦ selection).

https://kate-editor.org

@raito I actually should try neovim one of these days. I've heard good things about it.

I really like the command style of #kakoune, but #vim is just everywhere.

#kakoune, #helix or #neovim ?
https://phaazon.net/blog/more-hindsight-vim-helix-kakoune

Interesting read by @phaazon

Best of all: he uses #bépo himself.

Despites @vjousse help, I’ve never been 100% satisfied by bépo/neovim to write fiction (instead of code). Maybe I should give kakoune or helix a try.

Anyone tried those?

@fossesq In #kakoune you can do Gl (upper case g). I dont know if its the same in helix

I'll soon finish the PR to have multiple LSP server support for a single language in #Kakoune. It's just that it's an end of semester in university, so... 😢

Working on making kak-lsp supporting multiple language servers. Hopefully I'll finish the PR this month still. 😂 #kakoune

special mention to #kakoune and #kak-lsp as well.

I had a bit of free time today and went to the tutor of #helixEditor. Very nice, and it definitely has some powerful features for manipulating text (based on #kakoune's keybindings).
Unfortunately, there's no way to get those keybindings into IntelliJ.

For the vim/kakoune Rails programmers out there: what does your language server setup look like?

Coming from Rust, Go, Python, and Typescript I am struggling with the limitations on intellisense and heavy reliance on conventions. I'm curious what a pro's™ Rails dev setup looks like for terminal editors.

#askfedi #vim #kakoune #ruby #rails

@cindox@fosstodon.org using #helix. I’ve been using #vim for a while before but I’ve been spending so much time configuring it. #helix defaults is giving me #lsp, autocomplete, file searching and a few more. It’s also a modal editor but inspired by a slightly different philosophy (like #kakoune): select first, act after (opposite of #vim).

About a decade ago I switched from Zsh to Fish. It was amazing: everything *just worked,* by default.

I'm getting the same feeling about Helix, coming from two decades of Vim.

Still adjusting to Kakoune-style modal editing, but everything else is great. It's fast, terminal-oriented, and has all the goodies (LSP, Tree Sitter, etc.) built-in.

https://helix-editor.com/

#helix #kakoune #vim

Ok friends, in the #helix text editor (or, failing that, #Kakoune / #Neovim, because it might be the same): How would one SELECT from the cursor to the end of a line?

I can g-l to go to the end of a line. I can select with a mouse. I cannot figure out how to select to the end of a line. User error through and through (not historically a vim guy).

As a long-time VIM-User, I never thought, I would ever find an editor, that convinces me to change. Then #kakoune came, and now it looks like the second time that it happens. 🤷

Have you ever tried https://helix-editor.com/ ? It is incredible! #vim #kakoune #modaleditor

#terminal jockey problems: shift-arrow expands the selection in #kakoune. Shift-arrow also switches to the next tab in #konsole.

I decided to let the text editor win. After all, this is how it works everywhere else.

It became immediately obvious how often I used this #shortcut. Learning the new one will be painful but short.

@hyde @philipabbyad @benjaminhollon @joel

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3) You don't *have* to use all of vim's features. You don't even *have* to use vim itself. There are a lot of good editors. The key is learning the basic vi* way of doing things, and branching out as you wish. A lot of folks on here love #NeoVim, others #Kakoune or #helix. Some just love various vi modes in #Emacs, and some don't even mind using vi mode in Kate. Nothing wrong with any of them!

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TIL how to "go back to where I just was" in #kakoune.

This helps when I want to paste something from elsewhere in my document into my current cursor location: find the thing to copy, copy it, <ctrl+o>, paste it.

https://github.com/mawww/kakoune/blob/master/doc/pages/keys.asciidoc#jump-list

It's been some time now since I've stopped using #Neovim in favor of #Kakoune.

It works really well for me, I love it.