EV not Petrol · @samhkennedy
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Robert Smith · @OnyaDon
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nominated ’s “greatest statespeople” as , . . 13 ys of - engagement with , from forum to the peace process, was seemingly erased in that statement – whether by accident or design.
@GMegalogenis

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Jude · @sister_ratched
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@Neil1808 He's always been his own man... not paid by anyone. And his message about China hasn't changed for decades. He may be a little out of the loop but he still makes a generally valid point.

#keating

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John Quiggin · @johnquiggin
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Something I've long observed in politics is that an unexpected win against the odds is a poisoned chalice for an incumbent government. It produces hubris, which leads to disaster and typically a long spell in opposition. 1993 a prime example, 2019 looks like another.

#keating #morrison #auspol

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P Gamble · @pb_gamble
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Debbie Spillane · @DebbieSpillane
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Michael Pascoe nails it. The media covering the sideshow of Keating’s insults rather than the substance of his comments re China .
Tell us why his comments re China not being a threat and a few nuclear subs not being the answer even if it was are wrong. And please spare us ‘he shouldn’t have spoken to a woman journalist like that’. FFS.

thenewdaily.com.au/news/politi

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[sorry... not sorry]
Good! We should keep at it.

This thing has some life left in it yet.

It's as much about Australian as it is about those bloody submarines.


abc.net.au/news/2023-03-18/pau

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Orright, one more on & & ~

"...you would think a mature press Corp would’ve focussed on the substance of the matter, but you would be wrong. Instead, we got tweets about who he called a Ning Nong.

"The idea that anyone could watch Keating’s discussion with Laura Tingle and conclude that he has “nothing of substance to add” is merely to underline how completely Bevan Shields () - and any other journalist who thinks this - have been unable to separate the form of Keating’s observations from their content. To separate their personal affront from what the man argued.

"And if you can’t do that—separate form from content, personal hurt from reasoned analysis—you can’t do journalism."


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PostOrientalism · @steveirons
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Ecoist · @ecoist
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RT @timand2037
Former Australian PM Paul debunks the "threat" and condemns the rush to confrontation, which is mainly about trying to sustain US hegemony in East Asia.

#keating #china #angloamerican

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DragonFlame · @RHW
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@mustardon Thanks Mr Mustard. This makes so much practical sense. Well worth watching.
at NPC

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P Gamble · @pb_gamble
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I've just watched the National Press Club's video on YT and I must say I have a far greater respect for Paul Keating today than I ever have before, he commands one of the last vestiges of actual Common Sense and Integrity left in the world today. While Albanese, the Liberals, the Murdoch press and the U.S. are salivating and lusting for a self-anhilating war with China, Keating is telling it EXACTLY as it is, without embellishment or agenda. Bravo sir!

#auspol #keating #integrity #commonsense

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The dry old National Press Club's weekly talk has been turned on its head as Paul Keating destroys a string of journalists who foolishly chose to put confrontational questions to him to stroke their egos, rather than do their job - seek information.

They really are pathetic, as are their mastheads.



Watch the fireworks here... youtu.be/Bg0pMSe4W4U

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Earthlingz ✌️ #HetBoñhe · @LetsRoc
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My concerns.
He attacked reporters, his own party, other countries to avoid chinas crimes. Played, but others have been bad too.
The difference:
In the West we have the capacity to speak out. We don't always get a response but we keep screaming 😱.
China does not.😶 Their human rights lawyers (among others) who try are imprisoned, tortured, and if released, have lost their minds (see HRW). We need to speak for the Chinese too.
AND, while he defends China, Australians pay him a fortune.

#keating

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Cavitation · @cavitation
21 followers · 70 posts · Server aus.social

@pheonixed
I do see your point. But a lot of seasoned commentators are warning that China might be planning to annex Taiwan soon - in the next couple of years. China isn't assembling an invasion force, but they can blockade the country, and that seems to be how they will proceed, if they do.
Leaving aside the politics of Taiwan, it is clear that China, at least with its current leader, is aggressive, in that it is taking control of the whole of the South China Sea. Australia has been on the receiving end of basically unexplained boycotts from China of various trade goods, like barley and wine. The easiest explanation is that was to influence Australia's response to China, such as to permit China to take control of the South China Sea, and Taiwan, and to fall in line with China's views.
China could interdict trade to and from Australia. It can use its dozen nuclear submarines to sink or threaten cargo ships coming and going. Currently Australia can do nothing much to respond, except to give in, and follow China's line from then on. Now, that is an option.
But nuclear submarines would give us more options, including responding in kind.
is wrong, because our nuclear can operate a long way from our shores. Exactly where China's trade is located. China's submarines aren't going to linger off our coasts to stop our trade, and will be otherwise unreachable.
Can you think of anyway to handle that? Apart from giving in....

#keating #submarines

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Glen Le Lievre · @glenlelievre
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GUMS!
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Cavitation · @cavitation
20 followers · 67 posts · Server aus.social

Comment about the nuclear powered being acquired for Australia, misses the point; any conflict with China isn't likely to be an "invasion" or other 20th century style conflict, but instead it will a trade blockade. Currently Australia would be unable to prevent, or retaliate, against China if it blockaded our trade, both by ship and air. China can use its submarines to destroy and discourage any movement of goods to or from Australia. And this is predicted to be the main type of 'warfare' that China will use against Taiwan, should it decide to start a conflict with that government. But with nuclear powered submarines, Australia could both take military action against a foreign navy blockading trade, and, if necessary, retaliate in a a similar manner against China's trade, especially its oil trade travelling across the Indian Ocean. misses the point, that 21st century warfare isn't about invasions, but is about influencing and forcing economic support from other 'enemy' countries. This is playing out currently, in Ukraine.

#submarines #keating #auspol

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Peter Barnes · @infinite8horizon
702 followers · 1972 posts · Server aus.social

Need I say more?
Note also that there’s not a hint of evaluation of any of Keating’s criticisms, just a fact-free dismissal with the insult “spray”. Note as well that, despite all the excellent* journalism* and reporting* up until now, apparently it required criticism by Keating to, potentially, extract an explanation from the government for a $365b commitment, simply with a “spray”.

Says a lot for the probing investigative skills of our author, or the MSM as a whole.

What a pathetic excuse for the fourth estate.


#Thisisnotjournalism #AUKUS #speers #keating #submarines #auspol

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Peter Barnes · @infinite8horizon
702 followers · 1971 posts · Server aus.social

When a journalist chooses to use pejorative words like “spray” to describe factually-based criticism, it tells you much more about the journalist than the topic they claim to be reporting.

Let’s just review short biographies of Keating and Speers:

Keating:
Served the Australian public for 27 years as MP, Treasurer, Deputy Prime Minister and Prime Minister

Achievements included the Prices and Incomes Accord, the float of the Australian dollar, the elimination of tariffs, the deregulation of the financial sector, the first federal budget surplus, and reform of the taxation system, including the introduction of capital gains tax, fringe benefits tax, and dividend imputation.
Introduced the landmark Native Title Act, compulsory superannuation and enterprise bargaining, created a national infrastructure development program, the APEC leaders' meeting, and promoted republicanism by establishing the Republic Advisory Committee.

Awarded Euromoney Finance Minister of the Year
Refused an AC, saying being PM was recognition enough
Chair of International Advisory Committee of China Development Bank, including such lightweights as Henry Kissinger, Paul Volcker and a former head of the IMF

Speers:
Ex-Murdoch talking head
Accused Keating of a “spray”

🧵…


#Thisisnotjournalism #auspol #AUKUS #keating #speers #submarines

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