@ishabluebell

Bringing the #fatController back will not save the #toriesOut from losing power.

I rather doubt the lazy, lying ego will relish being #loto for an indefinite period after the #nextGE so if they are stupid enough to replace #sunak with him they will again run thru three leaders over a short period.

I wonder - could #starmer break the record for number of #tory leaders faced as #labourLeader ? That would make 5 if you count the ego twice

@InfoLibertarian @LJClements8 @wlarge @mafeesh @FlixtonTom
@OliverNoble

Well for those on the #UKleftWing we have had 74 years of #toryLite - given the same criticism from the #labourLeft has been hurled at every #labourLeader who has won any election since 1945.

BTW "Broken Pledge" is not even a thing if the party does not gain power - so easy to be #farLeft and smug in your doctrinal purity

Look up #benn and #chevaline to see what happens when #reality bites an idol of the #farLeft

@TJ1001

Well the alternative has been true for the last 13 years - having #labour led by #losers perceived to be too left by middleEnglad to vote for

What you call #Tory-lite I call #electable - and many people seem to agree

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

PS the bit on the graph to the left where #toriesOut led the polls was under the previous, two-time loser #labourLeader
#starmer will get only one chance to win

Stuff purity on the #opposition benches

@mafeesh @Spectraliser @LJClements8 @OliverNoble

Well it's hard to remember, but #sunak has a majority >60

So I'm not sure any alternate leader would've destroyed the #toriesOut by now (BTW they seem to be doing a pretty good job all by themselves)

Which isn't to say an alternate #labourLeader would not do better - if you exclude #andyBurnham (who excluded himself) who'd you choose in this alternate universe?

My shortlist
#rachelReeves
#lisaNandy

but I could be persuaded to AN Other

@madelainetaylor @OliverNoble

It is noty just #starmer - I have not read anyhing from #lisaNandy #angelaRayner #andyBurnham #rachelReeves or any other #labourLeader pushing for #pr

@Rednotgrey

oddly you will not find a single #tory who will agree with you - he is the first #labourLeader since #gordonBrown they fear

the #labourLeft hate #starmer for highlighting the fact that the #UK will not vote for a #labourLeft led #labourParty

The bit on the left of the graph is where #labour trailed under #corbyn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

@curmudgeonaf @fencoul @OliverNoble

over-simplistic - our 2 parties (3 in #scotland) are in fact themselves coalitions - you only need to look at the visceral hatred the #farLeft express toward the #labourLeader to see that - and quite what #DominicGrieve ever had in common with #SuellaBraverman escapes me totally.

There are actually just 2 political systems in the world - multi-view democracy, and #dictatorship by an absolute power

@SamYoung841 @champ

#Labour never has supported #PR - like the Tories, it is not in their selfish interests.

It is the dilemma in any political system - those in power by definition are those favoured by current arrangements, so naturally they are reluctant to change them.

At least #Starmer is committed to #lordsReform - if he gets that done it would be more than #Blair or any previous #labourLeader managed

@blepharon @ayoungfemale

As a #Labour supporter, I feel nothing but sadness that some are still so dedicated to the two-time loser who ran #Labour before, when it now has a real prospect of displacing the #dreadfulTories - that they prefer to diss the current #labourLeader

I never did even whilst sighing over the hopeless mess that previous leader caused - extending the #cameronToryEra by at least 5 years.