@MediaActivist

@writefreely is on the #fediverse already and is also available as a hosted service @write_as — ideal #LibreSaaS !

@J12t @dickhardt @evan

Looking forward to reading more about @HelloCoop 's employee member class for our international worker cooperative @agaric, and more about the user member class for Drutopia #LibreSaaS websites cooperative!

(Sounds like most of the complexity is for investors, which is vital for many but probably isn't in the cards for us.)

Are there public bylaws or similar for hello.coop? (What do people or organizations looking to join get shown?)

@kainoa @thelaughingmuse

oh wow! Hosting from developers that hopefully helps support development!! That's #LibreSaaS and we need more of that!

How much will it cost and how soon can we get started?

@thypon @tdfischer Yes! Zulip is fully free software. It's not a cool federated or peer-to-peer thing and doesn't have a massive self-hosted install base, but i really like the topics-not-threads approach— and appreciate being able to pay for hosting + support open source development #LibreSaaS

@Are0h oh wow i missed this. Thanks. Do you know of any plans for hosted #Forgejo — like Codeberg is for #Gitea but ideally more profit-driven, ironically, #LibreSaaS as a funding source for Forgejo?

@tlhInganHom @t54r4n1 OK just noticing i'm responding to a months-old thread but in the ensuing time Buffer added Mastodon support: https://buffer.com/mastodon

And we're building that into https://drutopia.org/ (somewhat overpowered structured-content websites for grassroots groups with a #LibreSaaS offering) also.

Probably more/better options out there since then that y'all know better than me.

@trashheap @technomancy @ieure Appeal of #LibreSaaS to me is i absolutely do not want to have anything to do with hosting— unless i need to. And i don't personally play games myself so most stuff i use is for longterm and would want it to be supported. But i do see that regardless of hosted or installed locally, that try, buy, and recurring financial support should be three separate things for the most part. Let me check it out, & let me pay for it— w/o commitments as default option.

@trashheap @technomancy @ieure there is convenience for hosted software, even for non-hosted reliable updates are good, and money sure helps with that… i've been trying to promote #LibreSaaS as the best of both worlds, both fully yours if you want to maintain it but with a stable financial model by default

This same sort of extreme impingement on your control over something that you rely on, that you think of as yours, is why some in the Free Software movement are dead set against Software as a Service— how do you remove a kill-switch from the cloud?

Cooperative ownership / democratic control, data backups, and open source free/libre software for the whole stack - #LibreSaaS - are our answer to that.

https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/108335313268701155

A final element of #LibreSaaS, Free/Libre Software as a Service (hosted by not-you or a cooperative including you), that i consider essential is that it be a paid service, and that some of the money go into funding the development of the software itself.

I'm not sure social.coop or meet.coop necessarily meet this last criteria, but i may be too narrow— using and identifying bugs and improvements in #FLOSS is a way of contributing also.

Ideally, #LibreSaaS would also be cooperatively hosted.

The cloud is only "someone else's computer" if you don't own it— if you democratically control the software with the other people relying on the service provided, as is the case with social.coop on which i write these words, then it's your computer, too.

What is #LibreSaaS, you ask?

Free/Libre software hosted for you, and it is a term @z428 and i, if no one else, will make happen:

> "software as a service" hostings in an ethical environment

online apps and tools provided with 100% open source free software that you can realistically host yourself or take to another provider with full data portability guaranteed by the failsafe that you can run the exact same code.

@agaric chose Zulip because it was the best chat realtime+async chat and coordination software available (and we did not have to host it ourselves) but i am becoming increasingly impressed with Zulip as a model of sustainable #LibreSaaS

https://blog.zulip.com/2021/12/17/why-zulip-will-stand-the-test-of-time/

Not that $600 or $1,200 a year are not also high for lots of community projects, but we feel it is important that community groups have the potential to shape a platform they rely on, and have #Drupal as a #LibreSaaS option as well as better known WordPress, Ghost, etc SaaS.

RT @mlncn@twitter.com

i hope every worker who makes Mailchimp work and got none of this gross capitalist buyout leaves to start a competing service— and that they all know about #PlatformCooperativism and #LibreSaaS

cc @platformcoop@twitter.com and @LibreSaaS@twitter.com https://twitter.com/ekp/status/1437516618553192449

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/mlncn/status/1437577784939925516

@rick_777 @xpac @kurtm @davidak @actualsteerpike

… just realizing i'm replying to a months-old thread, but if any of you think #LibreSaaS is a solution in some scenarios— have the shared resources and easy startup of SaaS, with the prevention of hostage-taking afforded by Free Software (and data portability), i'm hoping to start a website to spread the word so ping me if you want to be a moderator / do the thing, currently just an etherpad https://pad.drutopia.org/p/libresaas

Is Glitch entirely #LibreSoftware (and so #LibreSaaS )?

I can't quite figure out for sure, if you wanted to clone the whole Glitch service, could you?

https://github.com/glitchdotcom
https://glitch.com/about
https://medium.com/glitch/glitch-opens-up-welcome-85c62d0d6e84

cc @FreeScholar @anildash

@brainblasted @write_as congrats, a #LibreSaaS company! My dream!

Where i've been noting #LibreSaaS as i find it:

https://pad.drutopia.org/p/libresaas

To be folded into libresaas.org as a fancy directory, collaborating curators welcome!

Hello fediverse, what online tools do you know about that are LibreSaaS— you can pay to use them, but the full stack is free/libre open source software so you or others can totally host the entire thing yourself if you want?

Please boost i'm giving a talk in six hours!

#LibreSaaS