And I’m still not able to use #uim to input #Japanese or other languages with graphic tools, such as #netsurf. Only CLI tools like #nvi/#vim. #leafpad works fine, though. Odd.
#OpenBSD

@stevegrunwell Actually, I'd maintain a good baseline is actually #netsurf: https://www.netsurf-browser.org Contrary to the "big" engines, this still has code a single person can grok, which for me is a good definition for "free as in freedom". We shouldn't lock such engines out for a bit of glitz and animations I'd like to turn off anyway...

#fcitx? Too new.
#ibus? Too new.
#scim? Too new.

But I finally have #Japanese input in my #OpenBSD box with #uim + #anthy. Just a couple of caveats but possible. #netsurf can’t use it, and I’ve not tried #w3m nor #lynx yet, but at least I can use it on both #leafpad and #nvi.

Replaced old #ThinkPad T41 broken hinge. With 2GB of RAM and a 1.6Gz Pentium M, realistic software options are... limited

Installed the latest #NetBSD 10_BETA, then used #pkgin to see about basic web browsers

#netsurf - fastest way for basic webpages

#ArcticFox - hits the sweet spot for older/constrained machines

#Firefox - 92 is almost usable in 2G, 102... not so much. I stopped there :)

For its time (2003) the T41 is an amazing laptop. Plus that screen ratio #chefskiss

#retrocomputing

Finally figured out how to do a thing I've wanted to do since I started using RISC OS! How to convert my #Linux #XFig files into #RiscOS Draw files!

Modern xfig can export to #SVG. #NetSurf can load plain SVG files and export to draw! Boom done!

New video out, today I'm taking a look at Netsurf, a lightweight web browser!:

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#browser #browsers #netsurf #foss #freesoftware

@james

Aye, I've used #netsurf before. Also, it's pretty easy to turn JS on and off in #luakit if you learn the command

I2P On The Pinephone / Pinetab? :thinking:

Sure Can! :terminal: 🧄 🔒

Mostly Recognize I2P For Anonymity / Privacy Purposes, It's Also An Easy Way To Add end-to-end #encryption to apps (#security)

(now shared first on blog, next #Tor friendly Peertube in advance of non-tor friendly vid platforms)

#tutorial #HumanRights #OnlineSafety #Netsurf #privacy #infosec #cybersecurity #I2P #Pinephone #Pinetab #Pine64 #hardware #Java #TILvids #peertube #federation #decentralized

https://tilvids.com/w/pj6yCJoacjLtAPUHCLo79d

@Big_Diggity

...

My sit-on-the-couch computer is this #librebooted early 2010 Thinkpad X200t running #OpenBSD 7.2. I use it to run tut-tui (ssslowly), and do some *uber*-light web browsing with #w3m, #NetSurf, #luakit, sometimes #Dillo, and rarely, #Firefox and almost never #Chromium (even though it runs better than Firefox in OpenBSD* -- principles!!)

...

@tulpa

Oops, I missed that!

It's not my work machine, so I haven't had to wrestle with other filesystems or printing, yet.

Egad, printing is so horrible on Linux, I'm afraid to even try on #OpenBSD 😂

Firefox is unusably slow. My first choice is l[iy]nks or #NetSurf, then luakit or maybe Surf, then Chromium. I don't know why Chromium gets all the love, but it's far more usable than ffox right now.

I don't understand why #DuckDuckGo redirects often fail on non-JS browsers like #Links, and #NetSurf. It forces me to use google dot com in those cases. *GASP!* #TechFail

I just want a browser with #NetSurf's efficient engine and #Firefox's interface sugar.

I'm surprised with how much I can get done in NetSurf in terms of casual browsing.

Maybe a no-JS alternate profile for firefox. I'll try opening the same pages in #Suckless #Surf (pure #WebKit) with JS on and off and compare RAM usage...

Will reply to this toot with #data :D

Me: Man, #Dillo is such a cute and awesome web browser.
Also me: Hey Dillo, can you increase the font size on this page so I can read it?
Dillo: No.
Me: NO??
Dillo: No. Not implemented. Manually edit the CSS if you want larger fonts.
Me: ----
Me: Hey #NetSurf!! How ya doin'??

^___^

@daniel

Try #NetSurf! It's a lot closer to a simple browser like #Falkon/#Qupzilla or #Suckless' Surf, but also very low-resource-usage:

(all three running a single window/tab):

~ $ surfmem
75.9297 MiB used by surf processes
317.762 MiB used by surf subprocesses (WebKit)
393.691 MiB total used by surf
~ $ ps aux |awk '$11=="netsurf" {print $6/1024" MB"}'
60.5586 MB
~ $ ps aux |awk '$11=="dillo" {print $6/1024" MB"}'
12.6289 MB

Is there a reference somewhere of all of the : blobcat : images and strings? Preferably something stupid-simple like a pdf, or super-simple html file that doesn't require a high-end browser to render? (Loving #NetSurf for lightweight browsing.)

Full list of graphical #web browsers you can use right now on 32 bit #Guix (i686-linux):
- #Netsurf
- the webkitgtk based ones
- maybe #nyxt but it's an even bigger memory hog than the others
- that's it.
Really, #qtwebkit is failing to build because it goes out of memory at the link step on the build farm, #chromium has been borked for months, #firefox (icecat) needs rust which is not currently bootstrappable on i686.

Please think of this when building web based "native" software, thx
#theVent

@Retrograde plz plz plz try #alpinelinux on it! Sounds like the perfect use case for it!

I have a machine with similar specs (Celeron single core instead of Atom, though) and it runs acceptably with it, even with Firefox. I highly recommend you to use #Netsurf for most of the browsing, though. It has worked for me wonders!

Ehhh, it looks like the #NetSurf package version 3.10-r7 broke in #AlpineLinux: it's preventing my upgrading of the entire system due to libcrypto.so.3 not being available for installation.

I had to delete it in order to proceed with the upgrade, which might not have been that much a big deal (a browser isn't the most required thing in the world) but at the same time takes away that whole lightweightness of my tiny system...

PSA: #netsurf 3 does not accept cookies from localhost. And: basic computer #literacy 201, using a #debugger: https://blog.tfiu.de/psa-netsurf-3-does-not-accept-cookies-from-localhost.html
#zuengeln

The quest for a decent web-browser for underrated hardware available on #OpenBSD is hard! :flan_heckk:

* #Netsurf-GTK3 is fine but some sites without JavaScript do not load.

* #Midori almost fine but I do not have idea how to tweak it to remove, for instance, tabs animations.

* #Chromium, beside Gugl, doesn't belong anymore to the lightweight browsers. Requires driver video unavailable for this integrated video card.

* #SeaMonkey is fast enough but without any adblock, trackerblock etc... brings down all the worst that modern WWW has to offer.

* #Surf didn't understand how it works.

* Badwolf the same for SeaMonkey, also doesn't seem to be able to render pages properly.

* #Firefox? Didn't find in the repo...

* Any QT browser... For now I am trying to avoid any QT dependencies...

Any suggestion is welcomed!

Thanks,
F.

#www