Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
621 followers · 1543 posts · Server writing.exchange

@keyoxide could this be used for as an alternative to DIDs? šŸ¤”

See aumetra.xyz/posts/nomad-id-fir

#nomadicidentity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
538 followers · 1417 posts · Server writing.exchange

@ntnsndr I do agree with the last point. But I think is even less VC-friendly, since itā€™s fundamentally about removing the moats of service providers.

#nomadicidentity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
528 followers · 1324 posts · Server writing.exchange

@liaizon as long as I get Iā€™m good. I donā€™t need the fediverse to be a reliable storage of my data; thatā€™s what my website/blog is for.

I think of my fedi posts as letters I send out into the ether.

#nomadicidentity

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Strypey · @strypey
2450 followers · 24754 posts · Server mastodon.nzoss.nz

@PavelVoronezh
> the ability to back up data on one of the friendly servers

Have you looked into the Zot protocol and its Nomadic Identity? It does exactly that. Of all the fediverse software I'm aware of, only Hubzilla and Streams implement Zot. I'm pretty sure Zot apps could already do this when ActivityPub was being drafted. Not sure why this capability wasn't included in AP

@smallcircles @rolle @wrigleyfield

#zot #nomadicidentity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
426 followers · 969 posts · Server writing.exchange

I know this much is true: I cannot and should not have to rely on someone elseā€™s ā€˜server instanceā€™ as the primary keeper of my social graph, I.e. my internet address book.

My personal connections should first and foremost be under my personal control.

Only I get to decide who Iā€™m connected to. And I decide how many of those connections are public.

I will share those connections with a server which will store and relay my post broadcast to my connects.

#activitypub #fediverse #nomadicidentity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
364 followers · 806 posts · Server writing.exchange

@0x0 šŸ‘

Essential reading for anyone interested in on

cc @shadowfacts @silverpill @liaizon

#activitypub #nomadicidentity

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LisPi · @lispi314
553 followers · 11801 posts · Server mastodon.top

@Wander Such a design would also provide for free by quite simply not tying you to an instance in the first place.

gossiping is also perfectly viable and could be used alongside the nexus/repeater/propagation nodes.

It would unfortunately be very awkward to backport onto ActivityPub as it currently is.

The actor@uri assumption runs deep in the spec and DIDs (w3.org/TR/did-core/) are a troublesome patch on that.

#nomadicidentity #p2p

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
352 followers · 757 posts · Server writing.exchange

@ifixcoinops great example of why is sorely needed, so our accounts + connections are separate and independent from our post content.

We canā€™t have servers quietly undoing our follows.

On a separate note, I feel like defederation should normally be enacted as a server-wide vote over the course of several weeks:

W1: Vote on this poll to decide whether we should defederate from X.

W2: Poll has concluded. >60% are in favor of defed, so itā€™s happening.

W3: Block

W4: Defederate

#nomadicidentity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
325 followers · 717 posts · Server writing.exchange

@laurenshof for me specifically, the 150 people is everyone involved in a ā€˜social enterpriseā€™ project.

Using that server as primary host (although Iā€™d love for that not to be a big deal with the introduction of ) makes sense to anyone whose content is primarily regarding that project.

In any case, solving for 5 vs 200 users is roughly the same thing as far as technical design constraints go.

#nomadicidentity

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@erlend
Why not make a reality *before* federating with any Facebook-related servers, and see if they're willing to extend that functionality to their users? (Hint: Facebook will never do this, as it runs counter to their legal obligation to shareholders)

#nomadicidentity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
261 followers · 530 posts · Server writing.exchange

I see as the best opportunity Iā€™ll ever get to bridge my own social network presence with that of my less techy friends.

We know Meta will attempt an EEE play, but what if we play the reverse UNO card and EE(E) them instead?

Embrace: Carefully federate in a minimum-viable fashion that doesnā€™t overrun the existing

Extend: Make a reality, so accounts can be moved effortlessly.

Extinguish: In case of misconduct, defederate and provide mass-migration assistance.

#nomadicidentity #fediverse #P92

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Zuba :bandeira_pe: :v_com: · @zugumba
229 followers · 4819 posts · Server ursal.zone

@sirius @Rcassano por isso acho a idĆ©ia de interessante. Sua identidade basicamente nĆ£o depender da instancia, inclusive podendo ser replicada em vĆ”rias

#nomadicidentity

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smallcircles (Humane Tech Now) · @smallcircles
5379 followers · 2952 posts · Server social.coop
Tanguy Fardet · @tfardet
286 followers · 1048 posts · Server fediscience.org

I've been wondering about support on the .
(and probably others) use the rel=me for external verification.
There is also "alsoKnownAs" that is used for account migration.

Now are there specific reasons why AKA or similar could not be used to implement something similar to ?
Two profiles both indicating one another via AKA/alias would be considered the same person and treated as such by their followers.

1/2

#nomadicidentity #aliases #mastodon #fediverse #identity

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Erlend Sogge Heggen · @erlend
148 followers · 321 posts · Server writing.exchange

@ConserveChange agreed. We would have to introduce some important mitigations and protections to prevent activity flooding as well as any EEE tactics, but Meta joining the fediverse is ultimately a major compromise on their end, not the other way around.

Getting their currently very locked in users plugged into the would give them an incredible new avenue to move off of it completely. Hence why itā€™s all the more important that we get to work on asap.

#nomadicidentity #fediverse

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Codesmith · @codesmith
26 followers · 174 posts · Server techhub.social

@alastor8472 Reasonable account portability is #1 on my wish list of next steps that I feel should have been implemented long ago. It also seems like something that the Mastodon devs in particular are not interested in implementing any time soon.

I like what I've seen from with . I wish more devs would consider that option.

#zot #nomadicidentity #activitypub

Last updated 2 years ago

Alan Martello · @amart
433 followers · 1074 posts · Server hachyderm.io

For those looking to add 3rd party identification services, I just discovered Authl - a python library that supports email ā€œmagic linkā€, fediverse (Mastodon & Pleroma) and IndieAuth.

A side apology to @atomicpoet as Iā€™m sure heā€™s mentioned IndieAuth many times when Iā€™ve complained about single sign on / nomadic identity. (I could count how many times if only there were full text search for a specific user ā€¦)

authl.readthedocs.io/en/stable

#sso #indieauth #nomadicidentity

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Codex ā˜Æļøā™ˆā˜® · @CodexArcanum
221 followers · 3787 posts · Server hachyderm.io

@maegul
@fediversenews

I think this is something future work around or might be able to help with. Beyond users having multiple linked accounts they can use for backup communication, there could (long term) be ways to automatically circumvent "network damage" similar to how the low-level network is defined, because intermediate servers will be able to verify content and share hosting.

@identity

#nomadicidentity #federatedidentity

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Alan Martello · @amart
419 followers · 805 posts · Server hachyderm.io

@jon @fediversenews @jupiter_rowland Iā€™m slightly more optimistic.

I think people are getting fed up with having all the apps: Twitter, FB, Tik-Tok, Instagram and the friction going between them all and not being able to find a friend on a given app.

If the Fediverse provides less friction - through new apps that evolve to support multiple services simultaneously along with or - then I think folks will migrate.

#nomadicidentity #singlesignon

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Life is Tetris · @tetrislife
40 followers · 978 posts · Server qoto.org

@bytex64 @lily "encrypted e-mail with account credentials" was fully thought out and implemented before Mastodon/ActivityPub, and is being actively ignored. This was in called the Zot protocol, continuing as the Nomad protocol in codeberg.org/streams/streams . It is called , and in Hubzilla/Streams, the encrypted credentials backup is just a "Save profile"!

#hubzilla #streams #nomadicidentity

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