@fla @kkarhan @Seirdy @neurovagrant I don't see where I gave you this vibe, sorry if I did. I just pointed out that I don't see how #NotYourKeysNotYourControl applies to Signal.

Thumbs up about contributing to diaspora.

I think that we actually have similar views, you can notice that in your last paragraph you say basically the same thing I do in mine.

@fla @Seirdy @neurovagrant

M8, if you gonna tone police me, GTFO!

Just because everyone does it doesn't mean it's good.

And if #NSAbook does so for their #Govware - #backdorred messengers then it's obviously insecure af.

#AllGafamsAreEvil and #NotYourKeysNotYourControl applies for #Cryptography just as much as for #Cryptocurrencies.

@Seirdy @neurovagrant that is irrelevant for the problem.

If I were to control a PBX, then encrypting your calls only buys your time at best if not allow me to literally MITM stuff since, #NotYourKeysNotYourControl!

Whereas I can exchange keys in #PGP / #MIME and #XMPP - #OMEMO via other ways and actually verify shit instead if #TOFU!