Peter Singer was geïnterviewd in de Volkskrant en wordt weer veelvuldig door veganisten gedeeld. Bij deze nog even een herinnering dat Peter Singer niet strijd voor dierenrechten, maar voor de manier waarop dieren worden uitgebuit: https://youtu.be/xXGdt4WnDZc?si=O9caYTVE9r095gAP&t=1023 #PeterSinger #Dierenrechten

If I had the means, land, resources, etc. to create an #AnimalSanctuary, I think I would create a #cat sanctuary. For all the poor, old, unwanted cats out there, to potentially be their forever home, or possibly their temporary home before they get adopted in a true forever home with a loving family. I would need a lot of fencing and wire to ensure no wildlife encounters and escape occurs! 😂

Second on my list would be a #chicken and #rooster sanctuary (kept separately of course*), where they can have space to live out their lives in peace. I have been thinking about chickens and all other forms of birds lately, in terms of a #veganism perspective. A recent estimate** in terms of the number of land animals killed for food (that huge number you always see #vegans ranting on about), is now estimated at 92.2 billion for 2023. The majority of those individuals would be birds of one sort of another, primarily chickens. 🐔🐣

Thinking about it some more, I came across this piece by #KarenDavis of #UnitedPoultryConcerns and the unfortunate views of #PeterSinger*** when it comes to his viewpoints regarding chickens:

https://www.upc-online.org/thinking/peter_singer.html

I say unfortunate, as the "Father of Animal Liberation****", it really saddens me to see his views exposed so clearly and his disdain for chickens shown so plainly. I suppose he is being practical/centrist/unemotive/etc. in his views, and perhaps he is trying to reach more people, by appearing more flexible and open, so that others out there that are not yet #vegan would consider the option of becoming vegan and embrace this philosophy for life. But really, not to be that #AnnoyingVegan, but he almost sounds like a #Flexitarian, being open to eat what he can when travelling, not upsetting hosts when invited over to dinner, and being ok with backyard hens and their eggs.

I guess it is easy to bash on someone that has done so much for the animal rights movement, but I do think that it is important to call out people, no matter how loved or famous, if some of their views dont correspond to the rest of their actions and stated beliefs and philosophies.*****

In the meanwhile, I will continue imagining all the animals I will try and save one day, but really I am more grateful for the many (though not enough) sanctuaries out there that are currently giving animals of all sorts (least of all, chickens) a safe presence, away from the living nightmare that is the reality of the majority of their species existence. 🌱

#GoVegan
#AnimalRights
#VeganForTheAnimals

*Probably easier than trying to desex poultry!
**https://blog.humanesociety.org/2023/06/more-animals-than-ever-before-92-2-billion-are-used-and-killed-each-year-for-food.html
***I have tooted about him before: https://aus.social/@Pece/110410557870768867
****I think this is given to him by others, I have never seen him claim this title.
*****Not that I am famous, but I am happy to be called out by my actions and words if they are not aligned and happy to make corrections accordingly.

@housepanther I am not sure of the effectiveness, but some #vegans are pushing a #ClimateChange angle because the "do it for the animals/they feel pain/they suffer" has been spoken about for decades, from the original founders of #TheVeganSociety to #PeterSinger in 1975 with his book #AnimalLiberation to the present (and interestingly his update to the book which got released this year has the climate as a big topic). Even though that is the best reason to #GoVegan, it seems to have increased the total vegans in the world to a few percentage points, which is a very slow change of pace for a movement that wants total abolition of animal exploitation.

Going with the climate change angle might lead to more people realising that #veganism is the long term solution. If not for the animals sake, then at least for humanities very own survival, since the contributions to animal agriculture to the environment is not insignificant.

You can’t spell “supreme corruption” without “Supreme Court.” Legit.
#SCOTUS #JudicialEthics #LeonardLeo #FederalistSociety #HarlanCrow #PeterSinger #QuidProQuo #ClarenceThomas #SamuelAlito #JohnRoberts #NeilGorsuch #BrettKavanaugh #AmyConeyBarrett

#Kuuntelusuositus / #Katselusuositus:

#YleMondo lla alko juuri #HardTalk, jossa vieraana Peter Singer.

#PeterSinger.in #BBC Hard Talk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/n3ct0c33

#Singer #eläinoikeudet #eläintenoikeudet #AnimalLiberation #OikeuttaEläimille #filosofia #philosophy #etiikka #moraali #moralty #ethics #anmal #eläin #animals #eläimet

@chavan Thank you for sharing this. I am not a subscriber to the Atlantic so I am unable to read the article, but it is good to see #PeterSinger get a decent amount of coverage for his upcoming book. I have a few gripes about his certain leniency to certain conditions where he says eating animals is ok (I am curious if he alluded to that in this article?), but I am sure that's just the #AnnoyingVegan in me talking. 😂

Philosopher #PeterSinger, author of #AnimalLiberation is releasing an updated book called #AnimalLiberationNow. Here is an interview he had with #ZoëCorbyn:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/21/philosopher-peter-singer-theres-no-reason-to-say-humans-have-more-worth-or-moral-status-than-animals

I look forward to reading both the old and updated book, and see how much/little has changed. Looks like it will give a bigger spotlight on the #ClimateEmergency aspect in relation to the animal agricultural industry.

A few things I am disappointed about, from a #vegan perspective (#AnnoyingVegan bias incoming):

1. Describing himself as 'flexibly vegan'.
2. Eating oysters (even if oyster farming is apparently an environmentally sustainable industry).
3. His defense of 'consientious omnivores'. Q&A in full:

"Conscientious omnivores oppose factory farming but continue to eat animal products from farmers who treat their animals well and don’t subject them to suffering. Do they get a pass?
Honestly, I can’t show that they are wrong. Assume that the cows wouldn’t have existed if they weren’t going to be sold for their meat and the conscientious omnivores investigate how their food is produced, and can be confident that the animals really do have good lives and are killed painlessly and without suffering – then I think they do get a pass. They’re allies in the movement against factory farming, and a world of conscientious omnivores would produce much less meat and dairy products, with vastly less suffering."

Let me expand on point 3:🧵

#vegans #veganism #GoVegan #VeganForTheAnimals #AnimalRights

I am happy to see the #NewYorkTimes opinion piece by #PeterSinger is making the rounds and is being tooted by lots of people here on #mastodon.

A shame he talks about only a reduction in animal meat consumption as opposed to total elimination, but I guess baby steps is the way to get to most normal and nice people. 🤔

Also exciting to see he has an updated book coming out called #AnimalLiberationNow. Something I will be very keen to check out (though maybe I should read the original and compare notes 😂).

#Vegan #Vegans #Veganism #VeganForTheAnimals #GoVegan #AnimalRights

@j9t @yatil

I think it’s better to promote good ideas, regardless of the people who happen to agree.

In this case: what #PeterSinger is advocating on that piece couldn’t be clearer or more constructive: we should reduce our consumption of animal products for ethical and for environmental reasons.

Even if his position on the welfare of seriously handicapped babies were “eugenics” (and I think it’s not, because his rationale is not the “improvement” of future generations but reducing suffering for both the baby and his/her carers, and because most newborns with severe disabilities would have a very narrow chance of having descendants anyway), does that somehow invalidate the amazing work he has done for decades in favour of the global poor, philanthropy, animal welfare, etc?

@beforewisdom Oh yes, the well known Peter Singer for his altruism.

“killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person. Very often it is not wrong at all.” -Peter Singer

#petersinger

Peter Singer is not an intellectual, and doesn't really care about the well being of humans nor other species. He's not a good example for morality at all.

“killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person. Very often it is not wrong at all.” - Peter Singer

#PeterSinger #utilitarianism #veganism #philosophy

https://direct.mit.edu/ajle/article/doi/10.1162/ajle_a_00014/107218/THE-DISCORDANT-SINGER-How-Peter-Singer-s-Treatment

Someone should tell #PeterSinger that he has a MORAL OBLIGATION to join Mastodon, and that by not allowing me to tag him in my masturbation-advocating posts, he is doing an EVIL act!

This next part is a cognitohazard that Philosophy Grads argue about, so don't worry about it: it's just a dude's opinion.

So fast forward like 2500 years, to the 1970s, where #PeterSinger, one of the major #ethics philosophers of our time, wrote an infamous paper called "#Famine, #Affluence, And #Morality" in which he proposed that it was wrong to partake in luxuries, or in general to spend money that you didn't need to spend, was LITERALLY EVIL, because you should be getting that money to charities like UNICEF to fight starvation in the third world. This, he argued, was choosing mild comforts over the lives of others, and that our society is fundamentally flawed for considering charity to be a nice thing when chooses to do and not a moral obligation.

There are a few problems with the notion, including the one we throw at #Bostron and his #EffectiveAltruism crime-cult, lack of Systemic awareness, but the underlying ideas are sound enough that it's a valid argument.

Featuring #paulBloom and #Petersinger
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93YWtpbmd1cC5saWJzeW4uY29tL3Jzcw/episode/M2E0NTFjNWItN2Y0Ni00OGU0LThiNTgtNjUxM2NiODQ2NzEx?ep=14

'Peter Singer is de meest invloedrijke levende filosoof ter wereld, en Effectief altruïsme zou wel eens zijn meest invloedrijke boek kunnen zijn.'
- Joshua Greene, psycholoog en filosoof

'Effectief Altruïsme is belangrijk omdat het hart en hoofd combineert.'
- Peter Singer

#altruisme #boek #petersinger #filosofie #beterewereld

@timnitGebru

The claim that #PeterSinger is a eugenicist is not very convincing. Key quote of debate:

"Disability rights activists have held many protests against Singer at Princeton University and at his lectures over the years. Singer has replied that many people judge him based on secondhand summaries and short quotations taken out of context, not on his books or articles, and that his aim is to elevate the status of animals, not to lower that of humans." [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer

#petersinger @philosophy
What do #philosophers care about? What do you care about?

#TIL that #PeterSinger -- professor of applied #ethics, author of the book #AnimalLiberation, and populariser of the term #speciesism -- is heavily criticised due to his views of #euthanasia. He even defended sexual assault against a man with severe disabilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer#Protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer#Criticism

#Vegan #Veganism #Singer #ableism

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/07/arts/peter-singer-berggruen-prize.html

#EA #EffectiveAltruism #philanthropy #PeterSinger #news