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TITLE: Criteria for an AI to write psychotherapy chart notes (or medical chart notes)

Note: Reposting to get it out to a few additional groups.

I am informed that a new product called #Mentalyc has entered the market. It's mission is to write psychotherapy notes for clinicians AND to gather a non-identifiable dataset for research into clinical best practices.

I have no firm opinion yet on Mentalyc, but it's expensive ($39-$69 per month per clinician) and I'd personally need to know a lot more about what's in that dataset and who is benefiting from it.

**So I'm asking the community for thoughts on what acceptable ethical and practical criteria would be for an AI to write psychotherapy notes or medical notes.**

Here are MY thoughts so far:

1) REQUIRED: The AI either:
1a) Invents NOTHING and takes 100% of the information in the note from the clinician, or

1b) Prompts the clinician for additional symptoms often present in the condition before writing the note, or

1c) Presents a very clear information page before writing that lets the clinician approve, delete, or modify anything the AI got creative with and was not told explicitly to include. (So, for example, in an experiment with Bard a clinician found that Bard added sleep problems as an invented symptom to a SOAP note for a person with depression and anxiety. This is a non-bizarre symptom addition that makes lots of sense, is very likely, but would have to be approved as valid for the person in question.)

2) OPTIONAL: The AI is on MY computer and NOT reporting anything back to the Internet. This will not be on everyone's list, but I've seen too many #BAA subcontractors playing loose with the definition of #HIPAA (medical privacy) and there is more money to be made in data sales than clinician subscriptions to an AI.

3) OPTIONAL: Inexpensive (There are several free AI tools emerging.)

4) OPTIONAL: Open Source

5) Inputting data to the AI to write the note is less work than just writing the note personally. (Maybe a complex tablet-based clickable form? But then, a pretty high percentage of a note can be in a clickable form format anyway.)

6) The AI does NOT record the entire session and then write a note based upon what was said. (It might accept dictation of note directions sort of like doctors dictate notes to transcribers today.)

I think I may be envisioning a checkbox and drop-down menu form along with a space for a clinician to write a few keywords and phrases, then the AI (on my laptop) takes this and writes a note -- possibly just a paragraph to go along with the already existing form in the official note. I think. It's early days in my thinking.

--
Michael Reeder, LCPC

@psychology
@socialpsych
@socialwork
@psychiatry
#Bias #Ethics #EthicalAI #AI #CollaborativeHumanAISystems #HumanAwareAI #chatbotgpt #bard #security #dataanalytics #artificialintelligence #CopyAI #Simplified #Writesonic #Rytr #Writecream #CreaitorAI #Quillbot #Grammarly #SmartCopy #TextBlaze #HIPAA #privacy #psychology #counseling #socialwork #psychotherapy #research #SOAP #EHR ##mentalhealth #technology #psychiatry #healthcare #medical #doctor

TITLE: Criteria for an AI to write psychotherapy chart notes (or medical chart notes)

I am informed that a new product called #Mentalyc has entered the market. It's mission is to write psychotherapy notes for clinicians AND to gather a non-identifiable dataset for research into clinical best practices.

I have no firm opinion yet on Mentalyc, but it's expensive ($39-$69 per month per clinician) and I'd personally need to know a lot more about what's in that dataset and who is benefiting from it.

**So I'm asking the community for thoughts on what acceptable ethical and practical criteria would be for an AI to write psychotherapy notes or medical notes.**

Here are MY thoughts so far:

1) REQUIRED: The AI either:
1a) Invents NOTHING and takes 100% of the information in the note from the clinician, or

1b) Prompts the clinician for additional symptoms often present in the condition before writing the note, or

1c) Presents a very clear information page before writing that lets the clinician approve, delete, or modify anything the AI got creative with and was not told explicitly to include. (So, for example, in an experiment with Bard a clinician found that Bard added sleep problems as an invented symptom to a SOAP note for a person with depression and anxiety. This is a non-bizarre symptom addition that makes lots of sense, is very likely, but would have to be approved as valid for the person in question.)

2) OPTIONAL: The AI is on MY computer and NOT reporting anything back to the Internet. This will not be on everyone's list, but I've seen too many #BAA subcontractors playing loose with the definition of #HIPAA (medical privacy) and there is more money to be made in data sales than clinician subscriptions to an AI.

3) OPTIONAL: Inexpensive (There are several free AI tools emerging.)

4) OPTIONAL: Open Source

5) Inputting data to the AI to write the note is less work than just writing the note personally. (Maybe a complex tablet-based clickable form? But then, a pretty high percentage of a note can be in a clickable form format anyway.)

6) The AI does NOT record the entire session and then write a note based upon what was said. (It might accept dictation of note directions sort of like doctors dictate notes to transcribers today.)

I think I may be envisioning a checkbox and drop-down menu form along with a space for a clinician to write a few keywords and phrases, then the AI (on my laptop) takes this and writes a note -- possibly just a paragraph to go along with the already existing form in the official note. I think. It's early days in my thinking.

--
Michael Reeder, LCPC

#Bias #Ethics #EthicalAI #AI #CollaborativeHumanAISystems #HumanAwareAI #chatbotgpt #bard #security #dataanalytics #artificialintelligence #CopyAI #Simplified #Writesonic #Rytr #Writecream #CreaitorAI #Quillbot #Grammarly #SmartCopy #TextBlaze #HIPAA #privacy #psychology #counseling #socialwork #psychotherapy #research @psychotherapist @psychotherapists @psychology.a.gup.pe @socialpsych.a.gup.pe @socialwork.a.gup.pe @psychiatry.a.gup.pe #SOAP #EHR ##mentalhealth #technology #psychiatry #healthcare #medical #doctor

TITLE: Criteria for an AI to write psychotherapy chart notes (or medical chart notes)

I am informed that a new product called #Mentalyc has entered the market. It's mission is to write psychotherapy notes for clinicians AND to gather a non-identifiable dataset for research into clinical best practices.

I have no firm opinion yet on Mentalyc, but it's expensive ($39-$69 per month per clinician) and I'd personally need to know a lot more about what's in that dataset and who is benefiting from it.

**So I'm asking the community for thoughts on what acceptable ethical and practical criteria would be for an AI to write psychotherapy notes or medical notes.**

Here are MY thoughts so far:

1) REQUIRED: The AI either:
1a) Invents NOTHING and takes 100% of the information in the note from the clinician, or

1b) Prompts the clinician for additional symptoms often present in the condition before writing the note, or

1c) Presents a very clear information page before writing that lets the clinician approve, delete, or modify anything the AI got creative with and was not told explicitly to include. (So, for example, in an experiment with Bard a clinician found that Bard added sleep problems as an invented symptom to a SOAP note for a person with depression and anxiety. This is a non-bizarre symptom addition that makes lots of sense, is very likely, but would have to be approved as valid for the person in question.)

2) OPTIONAL: The AI is on MY computer and NOT reporting anything back to the Internet. This will not be on everyone's list, but I've seen too many #BAA subcontractors playing loose with the definition of #HIPAA (medical privacy) and there is more money to be made in data sales than clinician subscriptions to an AI.

3) OPTIONAL: Inexpensive (There are several free AI tools emerging.)

4) OPTIONAL: Open Source

5) Inputting data to the AI to write the note is less work than just writing the note personally. (Maybe a complex tablet-based clickable form? But then, a pretty high percentage of a note can be in a clickable form format anyway.)

6) The AI does NOT record the entire session and then write a note based upon what was said. (It might accept dictation of note directions sort of like doctors dictate notes to transcribers today.)

I think I may be envisioning a checkbox and drop-down menu form along with a space for a clinician to write a few keywords and phrases, then the AI (on my laptop) takes this and writes a note -- possibly just a paragraph to go along with the already existing form in the official note. I think. It's early days in my thinking.

--
Michael Reeder, LCPC

#Bias #Ethics #EthicalAI #AI #CollaborativeHumanAISystems #HumanAwareAI #chatbotgpt #bard #security #dataanalytics #artificialintelligence #CopyAI #Simplified #Writesonic #Rytr #Writecream #CreaitorAI #Quillbot #Grammarly #SmartCopy #TextBlaze #HIPAA #privacy #psychology #counseling #socialwork #psychotherapy #research @psychotherapist.a.gup.pe @psychotherapists.a.gup.pe @psychology.a.gup.pe @socialpsych.a.gup.pe @socialwork.a.gup.pe @psychiatry.a.gup.pe #SOAP #EHR ##mentalhealth #technology #psychiatry #healthcare #medical #doctor

I often use #Quillbot's (quillbot.com) #Summarizer to extract compact & streamlined summaries from key paragraphs in the articles posted to #Mastodon. Works much faster & comes up with better summaries than #BingAI BUT you still have to check whether important key words or phrases were omitted.

No getting around reading & digesting the whole article to get the nuances right, #GenerativeAI tools are useful but not in the driver's seat.

Anyone got any more suggestions than this list that I've ripped off of the 🐦 ?

"AI copywriting tools to check out:

1. Chat GPT - Research
2. #QuillBot - Paraphrasing
3. #StoryLab - Hooks and outlines
4. #Grammarly - Grammar/spelling
5. #Hemingway - Conciseness/clarity
6. Power Thesaurus - Thesaurus
7. Tweet Hunter - Content creation

What else?"

Via https://twitter.com/writingtoriches/status/1615707890903293952?s=20

#ChatGPT #PowerThesarus #TweetHunter

I suppose it was only a matter of time, but I just saw my youngest using #QuillBot to help him "fix" his English essay. While it states that it is not AI (in the way that #ChatGPT is), as a "full-sentence thesaurus" I wonder how much of a crutch something like this could become. Clearly he won't be able to use it in exams, but arguing with him about how he shouldn't use this generations calculator seems somewhat pointless. #StrangeNewWorld

@thelettuceman

On that end, what you're watching out for is #quillbot It's an AI rewriting / rephrasing bot that currently evades AI writing detectors. Meaning there's no safeguards to block it specifically right now. IIRC Google does deprioratize AI content if it detects it.

@gsuberland

@gsuberland

Where I'm really expecting the #ChatGPT to ruin the internet is in the content mills. I tried writing for one once, they pay you a penny a word or so and you try to write all these articles as fast as you can.

I wasn't the best at it, but after looking over the jobs, we were literally writing the shit pages that people were using to pad websites, not quality content.

Now that there's #quillbot to go along with ChatGPT, I can see people churning out a nightmarish amount of crap.

Hui Zheng
@xyz98
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母语非英语者如何快速写一篇满意的英文文章？可尝试用如下pipeline：
1. 用母语写下梗概，用 #ChatGPT 扩充
2. 用 #DeepL 译成英文
3. 将英文用 #quillbot 润色加工
4. 最后用 #grammerly 定稿

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RT by @Grass_block_cn: 母语非英语者如何快速写一篇满意的英文文章？可尝试用如下pipeline：
1. 用母语写下梗概，用 #ChatGPT 扩充
2. 用 #DeepL 译成英文
3. 将英文用 #quillbot 润色加工
4. 最后用 #grammerly 定稿

Posted in https://t.me/realGrassblock

RT @xyz98@twitter.com

母语非英语者如何快速写一篇满意的英文文章？可尝试用如下pipeline：
1. 用母语写下梗概，用 #ChatGPT 扩充
2. 用 #DeepL 译成英文
3. 将英文用 #quillbot 润色加工
4. 最后用 #grammerly 定稿

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/xyz98/status/1607731247987433473

RT @xyz98@twitter.com

母语非英语者如何快速写一篇满意的英文文章？可尝试用如下pipeline：
1. 用母语写下梗概，用 #ChatGPT 扩充
2. 用 #DeepL 译成英文
3. 将英文用 #quillbot 润色加工
4. 最后用 #grammerly 定稿

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/xyz98/status/1607731247987433473

Gosh this is kinda creepy. #life #quillbot #english #grammar

Quillbot.com is an AI tool that can summarize, paraphrase, help you pull in research and so much more.
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