Sorry, to be precise, after reading '#yugoslavia, the third way into civil war' by Ernst Lohoff: #Green is the new western patriotic breakdown nationalism.

Well, its a consequence, not that he has stated it. Combined with #RobertKurz Weltordnungskrieg from 2009 where he clarifies the war mongering of the leftlibs.

Ganz im kurzschen Sinne. #RobertKurz

Euer wertkritisches Einhörnchen 🦄🥰🌈

Abspann

"Am wahrscheinlichsten ist es gegenwärtig allerdings, daß die Zukunftsmusik wirklich ausgespielt hat, weil der »Bewußtseinssprung« nicht mehr vollzogen wird, der für eine neue soziale Emanzipationsbewegung erforderlich wäre. Der Kapitalismus kann dennoch nicht weiterleben, weil seine innere Schranke ebenso blind objektiviert ist wie der Funktionsmechanismus der »schönen Maschine«, der an sich selbst zuschanden wird. Bleibt die radikale Gegenbewegung aus, ist das Resultat die unaufhaltsame Entzivilisierung der Welt, wie sie jetzt schon überall sichtbar wird. Selbst dann wäre für eine Minderheit immer noch wenigstens eine Kultur der Verweigerung möglich. Wenn schon das ökonomische Terrorsystem in seinem Zerstörungsund Selbstzerstörungsprozeß nicht mehr aufgehalten werden kann, so gilt doch immer noch die Devise der Kritischen Theorie, sich von der eigenen Ohnmacht nicht dumm machen zu lassen." --- #RobertKurz

#Review to #KoheiSaito 'Natur gegen Kapital', 'Nature against #Capital':

I took the moment to read the book fast without remarks and underlining. So the first nice thing, that is absolutely possible. Most evaluations are practical, like historical explanations about the development of modern #agriculture in relation to Marx personal development and the difference between the first #Kapital editions.

Saito starts with #Marx, Engels and #Feuerbach. This part can be understood even though you know few about how crucial Feuerbach was to Marx and what exactly this new german ideology is. Why Feuerbach was crucial, and why Marx finally rejected Feuerbach will be explained to you.

In the following part Saito talks about Entfremdung (alianation) introduces this term in meaning represented by 'Das Kapital', but also Feuerbach and Hegel, and goes ahead with the Japanese school of thought and their particular different interpretation of abstract work, that is according them found in reality and has existed before the start of capitalism. This brings you some headakes to keep on understanding some few following chapters, but all in all conclusive.

Even though this interpretation is diametrically to those of #RobertKurz and #MichaelHeinrichs, it come to plenty of similar conclusions and claims to follow the same idea of Heinrichs science of value.

The most interesting part of Saito starts, when he starts following Marx observation towards, at that time contemporary research, of agriculture and how this changed Marx entire cause from an optimist person thinking in linear progress, to someone pessimistic, and later on into an pessimistic optimism, when Marx finally learned about the impact of human made climate change.

And yes, you heard right. A botanic called #Fraas wrote about how Forrest disappearance finally leads to the disappearance of Farming, although trees were remove to make space for farming. His argument was, that the impacting climate in this regions lead to desertification. We talk about mid 19th century science, that caught Marx attention.

Saito is able to increase the wow effect, so you keep on reading. In total a good book, nice to read and some incredible messages inside to a generation, that for some not obvious reasons wants to survive #ClimateChange.

I might later post some of these messages, but would suggest you reading the book instead.

#Wertkritik #ValueCritique #ScienceOfValue

@stylo_the_unicorn Interesting anyway that #KoheiSaito engages with #RobertKurz; until a few years ago very few mainstream Marxists outside of Germany did so.
Please share more thoughts on the book! I haven't read it but I'm like a third way through "Marx in the anthropocene".

*** The accumulation of sovereign debt is indeed illustrative of the long-term crisis of value, but I also think it's important to stress that monetary debt is not the root of the crisis but rather a surface phenomenon. It might not be entirely impossible that the debt problem could be "solved" – but then only by creating even worse problems at some other level.

On #Sustainability, #Economics, #Green

"But this could have been known beforehand, because the essence of economics consists of that particular calculation which, in the interest of economic self-preservation, literally doesn't give a damn about the whole. If you don't screw up the world, the #markets will punish you. In any case, it would be an absurd procedure to continue to organize society according to a principle that systematically calculates out the social and ecological consequential costs, only to want to add them back in afterwards. Why not be reasonable in the way we use society's #resources?

Unfortunately, this #rationality can only be mobilized if society puts an end to the blind business calculation robot. But it must not get down to the nitty-gritty. The socio-ecological debate of the 1970s and 1980s was obviously a luxury product of the world market winners. Now the fun is over. And precisely at a time when eco-dumping and social deregulation are accelerating the crisis, 'sustainability' is making a career for itself. It is the title for the certificate of surrender of #SocioEcological social criticism." --- #RobertKurz, 2000, 3 of 3

On #Sustanability, #Politics

"Any #criticism of #society is swallowed up in order to turn it into a market item alongside credit cards, panty liners and cell phones. Politics and the media stir up the ready-made soup of the #zeitgeist, in which the latest word chunks have to swim for the sake of saleability, even if they have no more substance than a Knorr or Maggi 'chicken soup' contains real chicken. It seems that the plastic term 'sustainability' was invented for this fast food discourse. This new word is ideally suited to amalgamate hard-headed market interests with #ecological responsibility whispers in order to feed the product, which is edible for everyone, into the endless operation of morsel journalism.

With the help of 'sustainability', one can effortlessly operate as an ecosocial figure of light without putting the prevailing social order and its business #economization of the world up for disposal. In the meantime, every child knows that #business rationality permanently externalizes costs: to society as a whole, to the future and also to nature. It has proved practically impossible to internalize these externalized social and ecological costs back into the economic balance sheet through political regulation." --- #RobertKurz

To #KoheiSaito.s book: Nature against Capital.

What #KoheiSaito does not grasp in his short critique of the collapse theory of #ValueCritique, #Wertkritik (#RobertKurz), however, is that the "doggedness of capital" and its dynamics ("elastic potencies") for the reproduction of itself, is not denied, but, according to the value critique, they are the cause of exponentially increasing costs within the scientific capitalist enterprise (development, research), which can only be covered by a total social debt (e.g. public debt), but hardly by an entrepreneurial accumulation. Thus, precisely because of the facts cited by Saito for the refutation of the value critique, capital is already long time processing outside of its actual operational range and must collapse accordingly due to a not realizable recreation of value, according to the value critique. This can be continued (simulated) only as long as the socialization of debts can be maintained with the simultaneous privatization of profits.***

Although Saito admits that he has not even considered the doctrine of value necessary for this statement, he already indicates with the unquestioned adoption of Burkett's quote that his understanding of value comes precisely from #MichaelHeinrichs and is thus diametrically opposed to Kurz's interpretation. Meanwhile, he does little to shake the value critique itself.

Still, the book is well worth reading, and I haven't quite finished it yet either. So maybe he'll still get his act together 😉.

*** For example, Germany's debt today will last until almost 2075, so we have to work for another 52 years to recoup the money we've already spent. In 2030, for example, it could already take until 2150 and in 2050 until the year 2200 or even 2300. It is obvious that this cannot be maintained endlessly. Countries like Haiti for instance can not rely on such a process of eternally raising debts, to maintain production of goods within social (worldwide) average costs, so that they necissarily loose an economic basis and collapse.

Zu #KoheiSaito.s Buch: Natur gegen Kapital

Was #KoheiSaito an seiner kurzen Kritik der Zusammenbruchstheorie der #Wertkritik (#RobertKurz) allerdings nicht erfasst, ist das die "Verbissenheit des Kapitals" und seine Dynamik ("elastische Potenzen") zur Reproduktion seiner selbst, nicht etwa geleugnet wird, sondern nach der Wertkritik eben Verursacher für exponentiell steigende Kosten innerhalb des wissenschaftlichen kapitalistischen Betriebes (Entwicklung, Forschung) darstellen, die nur noch durch eine soziale Gesamtverschuldung (zum Beispiel Staatsschulden) kaum aber noch durch eine unternehmerische Akkumulation gedeckt werden können. Somit prozessiert das Kapital eben genau wegen des von Saito zur Widerlegung der Wertkritik angeführten Sachverhalts schon lange außerhalb seines eigentlichen Arbeitsbereich und muss entsprechend an einer nicht mehr realisierbaren Verwertung des Werts kollabieren, so die Wertkritik. Dies kann nur solange fortgeführt (simuliert) werden, solange die Sozialisierung von Schulden bei gleichzeitiger Privatisierung von Profiten aufrecht gehalten werden kann.***

Obwohl Saito zugibt, die zu dieser Feststellung notwendige Lehre des Werts noch gar nicht betrachtet zu haben, deutet er mit der unhinterfragten Übernahme des Zitats von Burkett schon an, dass sein Verständnis des Werts eben von #MichaelHeinrichs stammt und somit der kurz'schen Interpretation diametral entgegensteht. An der Wertkritig selbst rüttelt er derweil wenig.

Das Buch ist aber trotzdem sehr lesenswert und ich bin auch noch nicht ganz fertig. Also vielleicht kriegt er ja noch die Kurve. 😉

*** zum Beispiel Reicht die Verschuldung Deutschlands heute bis nahezu 2075, wir müssen also noch 52 Jahre arbeiten um das jetzt schon ausgegebene Geld wieder reinzuholen. 2030 könnte es zum Beispiel schon bis 2150 dauern und 2050 bis ins Jahr 2200 oder gar 2300. Es ist offensichtlich, dass das nicht endlos aufrecht erhalten werden kann.

Dans sa tentative désespérée d’attribuer la nouvelle dimension de la terreur à une entité étrangère, le raisonnement occidental démocratique tombe définitivement en dessous de tout niveau intellectuel.

#RobertKurz / Avis aux naufragés (2005)

"Nicht persönlicher #Haß durfte hier wirksam sein, noch nicht einmal persönliche #Grausamkeit, sondern einzig jene »Banalität des Bösen« (Hannah Arendt) von Buchhaltertypen, fleißigen #Ingenieuren und deutschen #Pflichtmenschen, die alle menschlichen Regungen den Opfern gegenüber ersticken mußten für den »höheren Zweck« einer Art Menschheitserlösung. Die #Nazis vollzogen auf ihre Weise, was die #Sozialdemokratie sich immer erträumt hatte: eine »ordentliche #Revolution«, in der alles ganz anders wird, damit alles so bleiben kann, wie es ist. Die »ordentliche« Judenvernichtung der »deutschen Revolution« erschien so als eine Art Müllabfuhr des inkarnierten #Bösen am Kapitalismus, eine schwere »Blutarbeit«, die anständig durchzustehen war, um hinterher duschen zu gehen und den gereinigten #Kapitalismus endlich genießen zu können." --- #RobertKurz

#SocialState and #Leviathan

"The modern state apparatus originally appeared metaphorically with #Hobbes as a dragon-like monster and later was renamed in the context of the mechanistic world view as a counterpart of the market machine to the violence or to the "pedagogical machine", it now began to appear as "#FatherState". Which means nothing more than that mankind, which was soon made happy by the welfare state, got a machine-like bureaucratic monster for a guardian step-father."
--- #RobertKurz

#Sozialstaat und #Leviathan

"War der moderne Staatsapparat ursprünglich bei #Hobbes metaphorisch als ein drachenähnliches Ungeheuer erschienen und später im Kontext des mechanistischen Weltbilds als Pendant der Marktmaschine zur Gewaltbzw. zur »pädagogischen Maschine« umgetauft worden, so begann er nun als »#VaterStaat« zu firmieren. Was nichts weiter bedeutet, als daß die alsbald sozialstaatlich beglückte Menschheit ein maschinelles bürokratisches Ungeheuer zum vormundschaftlichen Stiefvater bekam."
--- #RobertKurz

Ich ❤️ Wertkritik

#RoswithaScholz
#RobertKurz
#MoishePostone

Reading #KoheiSaito now. So exciting!

Ihr könnt ja gern #Superhelden Quatsch gucken. Jeder weis wie sie enden. Aber das hier ist wenigstens spannend. 😂😇🥰

You can watch superhero stories, everyone knows how they gonna end up. At least this book is an adventure. 😇🥰

Kein Querverweis zu D. Harvey oder M. Heinrich aber zu Robert Kurz 😜

No reference to David Havey, but to Robert Kurz 🤪 #DavidHarvey #RobertKurz #Wertkritik verbreitet sich wie ein Virus 🤭 #ValueCriticism spreads like a virus.

Globale è bello? Su “Capitale Mondo” di Robert Kurz https://www.carmillaonline.com/2022/12/18/globale-e-bello-su-capitale-mondo-di-robert-kurz/ #RudolfHilferding #globalizzazione #Ilcapitalemondo #PeterSloterdijk #JosephStiglitz #MichelAglietta #WarrenBuffett #DavidRicardo #JosepBorrell #SamueleCerea #capitalismo #DavidHarvey #Recensioni #RobertKurz #sovranismo #UlrichBeck #Archiloco #KarlMarx

A better world is impossible!

Everyone directs his thoughts towards extinct someone else who is responsible for this shithole planet.

You are not a real #Anticapitalist, if you only blame the rich and don't see your own footprint.

It was the working class that prevented the final collapse of state-CAPITALISM in Soviet Union and China.

It is all about the invisible value behind the processing of capital as #Marx stated. Once violent pseudo-revuluzzers identified this value with the Jews.

We all know how it ended. Did #capitalism collapse? No. Why would it if we would kill all #Billionaires? It wouldn't!

Capitalism can exist without Billionaires, but not without working class.

#Wertkritik #Wertabspaltungskritik #ValueCriticism #MoishePostone #RobertKurz #Holocaust #Antisemitism

Manifesto against Labour (Krisis-Group)

#krisis #labour #antiwork #robertkurz #anticapitalism

https://www.krisis.org/1999/manifesto-against-labour/

Lo spazio e il deserto nel cinema di Pasolini https://www.carmillaonline.com/2020/06/04/lo-spazio-e-il-deserto-nel-cinema-di-pasolini/ #borghesiaindustriale #PierPaoloPasolini #sottoproletariato #figuranomadica #GioacchinoToni #mondocontadino #antimodernità #classesociale #disobbedienza #FélixGuattari #GillesDeleuze #spaziostriato #trasgressione #vagabondaggio #spazioliscio #capitalismo #razionalità #Sovversione #Recensioni #Consumismo #RobertKurz #Cinema&tv #borghesia #controllo #nomadismo

Le due facce della modernità secondo Robert Kurz https://www.carmillaonline.com/2018/06/10/le-due-facce-della-modernita-secondo-robert-kurz/ #Dialetticadell’Illuminismo #fondamentalismoislamico #Manifestocontroillavoro #L’anatradiVaucanson #socialismosovietico #statalismosovietico #mercatocapitalista #modernizzazione #UnioneSovietica #MassimoMaggini #NorbertTrenkle #RiccardoFrola #GruppoKrisis #SamueleCerea #capitalismo #Recensioni #ErnstLohof #Horkheimer #RobertKurz #Socialismo #ThomasMann