2/2 last night i listened to this #OutrageAndOptimism podcast interview with #JohanRockstrom and #SandrineDixonDecleve, two of the authors of the new #ClubOfRome book “Earth for all: a survival guide for Humanity” (which sounds great btw). I know this is not mainstream as such but was nevertheless struck by just how much, on so many fronts, thinking is shifting away from modernity’s “silo” division of nature/culture and all that comes with that.

https://www.outrageandoptimism.org/episodes/the-path-to-sustainability-is-equity