@JL32 Must look up Mike Nock. Ronnie Ball came from #Birmingham UK, with its distinctive accent. He died in the 80s. I never saw him. But #PeterInd became Tristano’s studio bassist (preferring #SonnyDallas for gigs though Ind may have had other commitments). I spoke at length with Ind, a gracious man with some very strange beliefs associated with #WilliamReich. He retained his generic South England accent. He absolutely adored Lennie and bought into all of his esoteric ideas.