The #OGB project is grounded in lived experience, and it's a way out of this mess. We cannot keep using traditional institutions. We have to stop the #techcurn if we are going to use #openweb tech for social/ecological change/challenge, and we need to think about this now.

The #hashtags #fahernista, #openweb, #dotcons, #4opens, #geekproblem, #techcurn, #nothingnew, #techshit and #encryptionists, all embody a similar story and world-view, which is the critique of the negative impact of technology and its development on society. They all express a concern that the #mainstreaming current state of technology is not aligned with the values of fairness, openness, and sustainability, and that it is being driven by the profit motives.

@bhaugen yep #nothingnew is a hashtag to make people think "is this needed" is the already social/technology/process existing that I can build on, outcome of failing to "think" is normal problem of #techcurn hashtag.

Additionally, the website could include links to the wiki for more in-depth information and resources, as well as a section for community engagement and discussion. This could be a valuable tool in the fight against #techshit #techcurn and a powerful way to reboot the #openweb movement..

The #hashtags #fahernista, #openweb, #dotcons, #4opens, #geekproblem, #techcurn, #nothingnew, #techshit and #encryptionists, all embody a similar story and world-view, which is the critique of the negative impact of technology and its development on society. They all express a concern that the #mainstreaming current state of technology is not aligned with the values of fairness, openness, and sustainability, and that it is being driven by the profit motives.

I can understand why the #geekproblem likes feudalism as a governance model of the #openweb the problem is its obviously not fit for perpuse in social change challenge that we need to survive on a habitable planet in the next 50 years.

We have to move away from the #techcurn and socializing governance is one way of doing this.

Other ideas/actions please, let's talk about this.

@witchescauldron @BillySmith

to be running projects in a feudalistic way is not going to bring the change/challenge we need to survive on a habitable planet.

Democracy for all its mess was successful in the 20th century... it would help now to break us outa the #techcurn we are in.

the #geekproblem and its "common sense" is something we need to socially mediate, all good #openweb projects were base on this, It's what the #openweb is.

Novaramedia covers social technology
https://media.blubrry.com/novarafm_radio_for_a/audiofiles.novara.io/downstream/2022/09/220912_Silicon_Valley_Fraudsters_Are_Lying_To_Us_w_Paris_Marx.mp3

#techshit #techcurn #geekproblem #dotcons

The is a hopelessness in most talk about alt tech.

Our #fashionistas feed this back into #BLOCKING

This is the verbal side of #techcurn

And adds to the mess.

Hopeless.

This post got me blocked by an #NGO #web3 account

"why is the Blockchain needed, tell me the technical reasons to use this tech over a traditional database and trust.

All good societies are based on trust, so if your "technical reason" in the end is "trustless" then you are destroying, not building a better world.

#techcurn is a problem, we have heaps of #techshit to compost already."

What do they fear?

@ProofingFuture why is the Blockchain needed, tell me the technical reasons to use this tech over a traditional database and trust.

All good societies are based on trust so if your "technical reason" in the end is "trustless" then you are destroying not building a better world.

#techcurn is a problem, we have heaps of #techshit to compost already.

If you use #mainstreaming tools you will have #deathcult outcomes... This is normal and obvious. If you use process in the same way you get the same outcome. I call this #blocking it is the everyday "common sense" we have to overcome to push change/challenge to the current mess.

In tech this leads to #techcurn in culture this mess is often spread by the #fashernistas

Good to step away from this #OMN #4opens is a path.

#mainstreaming #fashernistas are dangerously consumptive.

Our alt #fashernistas are all pointless.

We need to make DIFFERENT social norms (#4opens) fashionable to get some value from these people to move them from their pointlessness.

We can't keep doing the same #techshit Agen and agen #techcurn

The #OMN is a positive path.

Anyone interested in doing a sexy site for the #4opens think people need "official" look and feel to make use of this powerfull tool to fight the #techshit #techcurn and help to reboot the #openweb

Basically we need this on a nicely designed page with a bit of polish on the text https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/wiki

Then link back to the wiki for full humain use space.

https://code.mendhak.com/zero-trust-poor-choice-of-words/ The #deathcult worshipers talking about #techshit and pushing #techcurn

#NLnet funded a silo with "formal consensuses" https://community.karrot.world/t/nlnet-funding-application-successful/785 that's nutty, and not in a good way. Who is using PUBLIC money to push these agendas? Hard to see this as anything but #fluffy #techcurn in the time of the #fediverse

The karrot.world guys running the project seam a nice, inoffensive lot... cant see anywhere a mention of the #fedivers or #activitypub in their text.

#spiky point no more #silos no more #techcurn compost the #geekproblem

@karrot I understand you guys are young, but it helps to understand a bit of history so as not to keep adding to the #techshit that needs to be composted. The project you are doing has been built as a silo meany times over the past 20 years, so the is NO POINT in building it agen as a silo.

Please think on this before replying #techcurn is a problem.

From a grassroots #DIY #tech prospective just about all our #openweb #fahernistas are dangurus loons, not because of the effect they have, this is non-existent, but because of the SPACE they take up. We need to weed out this #techshit to slow the #techcurn.

We need to do this now #4opens is anyone up for making this happen :)

On the subject of the #geekproblem let's look at one issue:

This century, code is POWER and coders are "economists" of the last century might be a useful metaphor.

In user facing code good #UX is the sources of coding power, without this code is #techcurn to be composted.

The majority of OUR geeks actively #BLOCK this. The #dotcons geeks worship this, to prostrate themselves to the #deathcult

What should we be doing as grassroots #DIY #openweb activists?

We need to #unblock our geeks.

@bob steps... Have been doing this for more than 20 years... The blocking classes are something you can't get rid off, but for change/challenge to have meaning we (the clecttive, that dose not exist) need to mediate there #fashernist #techcurn and #NGO careerism. This is one way to make the "collective" exist, have you thought about that?