@danielsiepmann I have discussed this several times with my colleagues and everyone agrees that plugin development for #CKEditor5 is hell.

I don't know why #TYPO3 decided to keep using #CkEditor5, because I don't see any benefit. It seems very over-engineered (it has its own debug console!) and all plugins from #CkEditor4 have to be completely rebuilt as there is no upgrade path. So it wouldn't matter if #TYPO3 had switched to another #RTE.

Would love to see #tiptap or #tinymce in #TYPO3.

@lori I'm mostly just paraphrasing what the I recall being described as results from user group studies at SRI were on pointing devices.

The mouse wasn't the only thing they tried. Light pens predated the mouse (e.g. in Ivan Sutherland's Sketchpad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=495nCzxM9PI )

My understanding is that Bill English/ARC/The Augment group at SRI (Stanford Research Institute) under Doug(las) Engelbart experimented with various pointing devices, before settling on a 3 button mouse.

Some iterations had fewer (perhaps even no? I don't recall) buttons, some had as many as five buttons I seem to recall?

They even purportedly experimented with a pointing that was driven by knee movements (presumably to allow the hands to be free for other things, though perhaps this may have also been useful for accessibility much in the way there are some alternative pointing devices based upon eye tracking or breathing in more recent decades)

In SRI's studies apparently 3 buttons was considered ideal by most users?

Admittedly, they experimented with a lot of other things when it came to user input too.

For example, instead of relying solely on a QWERTY keyboard layout, NLS used a "chorded" keyboard (image attached).

Similar to playing notes on piano keys, or stenographer keyboards, multiple keys could be held simultaneously, to produce different characters.

Some years ago, an app was made available for mobile touch screen devices, by Adam Kumpf from Teague Labs but that app did not keep up & isn't in app stores anymore. (remnant: https://www.fastcompany.com/1669042/a-famous-inventors-forgotten-idea-a-one-handed-touch-screen-keyboard).

Others made an interface for the original hardware to an iPad (e.g: https://valerielandau.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/engelbart-typing-on-the-ipad-with-the-chorded-keyset/ ).

Presumably due to the versatility of the chorded keyset (typically used by the left hand) excessive buttons on the mouse (typically used by the right hand) made it such that 3 buttons seemed sufficient?

@alcinnz @ajroach42

#NLS #Mouse #ThreeButtons #ChordedKeySet #Engelbart #SRI #ComputerHistory #oNLineSystem #DougEngelbart #TipTap

@samwillis @elk @pradhvan Remember #tiptap ?

Nyt on kuulkaatten täys whamageddon päällä, elikkäs-pelikkäs joulusoittolista soipi heti aamusta :blobcatchristmastree:

#tipTap

@nextcloud so it is basically just a #tiptap integration and doesn't (because of that) even really follow the nextcloud design language...