@dadosch wie sind deine Erfahrungen so mit #xpra ? Wir wollen / müssen #x2go ersetzen und bisher sieht es ganz ok aus.

@BalooUriza @lanodan @ariadne SSH tunneling X11 programs isn't safe btw.

#Xpra helps that a bit, but Xpra isn't really developed as security software first so... also not ideal.

@libreleah @to3k As for alternatives with VMs outside of Qubes, the main issue I've seen is that all of the neat secure #RPC integrations they've added will need to be redone from scratch by you, the user.

GUI isolation in most other VM solutions also tends to be somewhat complex, which might impact security (#Xpra is not developed as a security tool).

@craigmaloney @cwebber In a similar vein, if networking isn't a problem, #Xpra might be a usable compromise.

It doesn't solve any of the monitor issue though, of course.

But #Barrier (https://github.com/debauchee/barrier) might.

Unfortunately clustering computers like #OpenVMS or #Plan9 and supporting remote display has fallen to the wayside. The closest thing I know, #ArcanFE is still WIP.

#xpra sorgt regelmäßig dafür, dass der Xserver (?) abstürzt und die externen Bildschirme kein Bild mehr anzeigen (kurzes Knacken aus den Lautsprechern, dann schwarz), bis das Laptop neugestartet wurde. Ich will gar nicht so genau wissen, was da vor sich geht…

#Xpra scheint kaputt zu sein... xpra list zeigt ganz kurz nach start noch als "live" an, ein paar Sekunden später nur noch als "unknown". Xpra attach liefert auch keine sinnvolle Fehlermeldung. Vor ein paar Tagen ging es noch🤔 Liegt es am GTK Update, ... 😐

@jeko i started looking into this after seeing vscode's pair programming functionality..stumbled across #xpra https://xpra.org/ and played with it but didn't go much further.

Very curious what you find!

@cringe Well, yeah, remmina is good but the *other* way 'round (connecting from Linux to a Windows desktop). That works pretty well. But connecting, say, from a Windows machine (or even a Linux desktop) to another Linux desktop while wanting to re-attach a running GUI session seems a challenging task. Still looking into things such as #nomachine , #xpra and similar solutions, and it all so far feels flaky and weird (to the worst point of #nomachine keeping my session unlocked and visible ...

Hmm, just encountered an odd crash with #xpra. I was connected just fine, but suddenly lost the connection and wouldn't restore it even after attempting to re-connect/restart the xpra server.

Turns out, it wasn't *xpra* that had crashed—it was x. And x had managed to crash in such a way that it was keeping the display I normally use occupied (but blank).

Restarting everything on a different `DISPLAY` solved the issue; all fine now, but a bit odd

Hmm, just encountered an odd crash with #xpra. I was connected just fine, but suddenly lost the connection and wouldn't restore it even after attempting to re-connect/restart the xpra server.

Turns out, it wasn't *xpra* that had crashed—it was x. And x had managed to crash in such a way that it was keeping the display I normally use occupied (but blank).

Restarting everything on a different `DISPLAY` solved the issue; all fine now, but a bit odd

@blu9

> I finally tried X forwarding for the first time. Very neat.

Agreed. I recently discovered #xpra, https://xpra.org/, which bills itself as "Screen for X". I like it even better than traditional X forwarding. (In fact, I'm using it right now in sending this toot)

I've also heard good things about X2go but haven't tried it (it's not in my distro's repo and I haven't gotten around to installing it)

@blu9

> I finally tried X forwarding for the first time. Very neat.

Agreed. I recently discovered #xpra, https://xpra.org/, which bills itself as "Screen for X". I like it even better than traditional X forwarding. (In fact, I'm using it right now in sending this toot)

I've also heard good things about X2go but haven't tried it (it's not in my distro's repo and I haven't gotten around to installing it)

@yisraeldov

> How does [#xpra] compare to x2go?

Well, I haven't used x2go enough to really compare the performance.

But the interaction model is different. With xpra, you attach to specific graphical applications running remotely, and then manage them exactly like they're graphical applications running locally. With x2go or vnc, you attach to the entire x session, and thus are managing things through an extra layer of abstraction (e.g., with things like your WM/DE)

@yisraeldov

> How does [#xpra] compare to x2go?

Well, I haven't used x2go enough to really compare the performance.

But the interaction model is different. With xpra, you attach to specific graphical applications running remotely, and then manage them exactly like they're graphical applications running locally. With x2go or vnc, you attach to the entire x session, and thus are managing things through an extra layer of abstraction (e.g., with things like your WM/DE)

Last week, I discovered #xpra ("Screen for X11"), and after a week of use, I'm impressed! https://xpra.org

I've used it to run graphical applications on one computer and interact with them from a different computer. And I can honestly say that I can't notice a difference compared to running the app locally.

It's basically what I always wanted #vnc to be—but without any of the lag I always experienced with VNC.

Last week, I discovered #xpra ("Screen for X11"), and after a week of use, I'm impressed! https://xpra.org

I've used it to run graphical applications on one computer and interact with them from a different computer. And I can honestly say that I can't notice a difference compared to running the app locally.

It's basically what I always wanted #vnc to be—but without any of the lag I always experienced with VNC.

@qyliss @jsantiago @balrogboogie @rysiek @jacek
I've been quite fond of Xpra lately. It's usable both for remote and local loopback.
Clean and very usable way to see my personal software in rootless windows at work without cross-contaminating things.
Optional paste-buffer and printer integration.
PS: Don't use ancient distro versions of it!
http://xpra.org/ #xpra

@brion Give XPRA a try. It's made massive progress recently and I use it a lot to get access to graphical software I run on my personal machine at home. Also it keeps the processes running when you disconnect.
http://xpra.org/ #XPRA