@natty #Emacs / #Zmacs (#LispMachine Emacs with deeper access than GNU Emacs) say no.

#EmacSpeak iirc does make use of non-textual information about data it has available as well.

You can attach objects and arbitrary attributes to text in Emacs (or indeed you could conceptualize the text as just an incidental storage location for pointers to those objects).

@trurl
Well no pressure, but if you do and it makes sense to me I will try to straddle it into zmacs, and then maybe forward in time into gnu emacs again. I believe the MIT-CADR vm I am using simulates the c. 1981 #lispm with #zmacs implemented by ZWEI, whose source I have not yet gotten into. On the last lispy gopher show, people in the live COM chat were filling me on ZWEI->EINE, zmacs->Hemlock time progressions. ....->GNU emacs
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@trurl
I was thinking of asking for that. I am also especially interested in elisp / major mode design at the moment because for old computer challenge I have been using the #lispm whose emacs implementation is #zmacs with #zetalisp major modes (and not gnu or lucient emacs with emacs-lisp).

I wonder if there is or was a near-antecedent to planner-mode major mode for Zmacs ? @amszmidt are you familiar with any TODO style major modes now or previously for zmacs?

@nil @icedquinn @sachac

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@clintm hey do you have any #ZMacs tips, this is the only other #ZMacs tag I can see

#lispm so #zmacs shares lots of the C-x C-<whatever> key chords with #emacs . For example exiting zmacs and returning to the editor is C-x C-c ; writing the file to disk is C-x C-w different/path.lisp <ret> ..
often invoked like
(defun foo () 'bar)
(ed #'foo)
<minibuffer>: Grind #'FOO into *buffer-1* ? Yes
DEFUN FOO ()
(BLOCK FOO 'BAR))

how zmacs is probably going to work is possibly weirdly assumed and undocumented knowledge. I guess, C-x is going to be like #emacs C-x.